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Note that it is not conducted outdoors, but entirely inside.

NO, especially at the Cub Scout level. At the Scout level, some people would call putting a rank requirement to attend and a mandatory prep trip an "Invitation Only" event. But in reality it is a way of making a trip more successful for those attending. Trust me, there is a reason why First Class Rank is required for HA activities.

Actually no it is not up to the DE. OA policy states what you asked is possible. Now the SM can decide to put his name on the ballot or not.

Here is the application: https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33748.pdf You are correct.

Troop elections, or unit elections as they are now called do have a set of procedures mandated by National OA. Do not have the updated 2019 policy posted online yet, but here is the 2017 policy and it is not safeguarded. Pages 13-15 of the document has the exact procedure. https://oa-bsa.org/uploads/publications/GuideToUnitElections2017.pdf Regarding can you use part of the nights at Summer camp towards the 15 days, here it is in the Q and A section (page 17 of the document) I posted above 8. My team attends summer camp for five days and four nights. Can that count towards the camping requirement? A. The camping requirement for long-term camps is a minimum of five nights, so three nights of this could be counted as a short-term camp. (italics for quotation) SO 3 of the 5 nights of summer camp can count as short term camping.

Mixed emotions on this one. I am all for working with special needs Scouts. I have done so in the past, and will be spending a week with one in the near future.They can be challenging to work with, but also very rewarding. BUT They can be too challenging too challenging for staff. One Cub at my CSDC needed someone with him all the time because he was indeed that challenging. Thank goodness his grandfather was with him the entire time to help out. Otherwise he would have been asked to leave and not come back the rest of the week. While the RSO could have handled it better, I think he made the right decision. If he thought he could not handle that Scout on the range, he has every right to limit access. The RSO's concern is with EVERYONE on the range, not just one individual. I had restricted access to the range one time with the special needs Scout one time. Grandfather had to leave the area for a few minutes to take care of personal business. Grandfather had not showed up when it was the Cubs turn to shoot, and I did not have enough staff for one-on-one with him. Now, once his grandfather returned, he did get a chance to shoot. I also knew the situation prior to running the range, so it wasn't a surprise.

Regarding First Year Camper programs, my council was spoiled for a long time. We had a retired Marine running our program. Firm, demanding, but fair. You having problems with something and needed extra help learning, he was there for you. Scouts who went through him learned something. I thought all FYC programs were like his. I was wrong. I have seen some great ones, some good ones, some not so good ones, and some pathetic ones over the years. I t depends upon the staff. You need phenomenal staff to run the FYC program because IMHO, it is the most important one. It is the program with the most impact, and has the possibility of either making or breaking Scout's interest in the program. @ItsBrian has a heavy burden as FYC staff to maintain.

I no longer recommend Cooking summer camp it will be a partial. They need to do cooking at home in addition to at camp. Plus it is a waste of food if you are not eating it.

I HATE THAT SUMMER CAMP IS TURNING INTO A MB MILL! (Emphasis, ok maybe a little shouting in anger at this occurring ; ) All jokes aside, summer camp needs to be fun. All electives is fine. Heck taking a MB twice, if it isn't in demand, is fine. The new Scout has plenty of time to work on required MBs. But if you are adamant on Eagle required MBs, First Aid and Swimming are the ones I recommend.

Burn bans in my neck of the woods is no fires period, not even in rings. The Dakota fire pit or fireplace is designed for windy dry that could cause prairie or wildfires. When I was taught it, the Aussie told me that down under, it was the only type of wood fire permitted when they had burn bans.

Agree with campfires and songs/skits. Problem is there are so many rules as to what can be done, folks are losing interest fast. As for cooking, that is a challenge. Burn bans are lousy. Crazy thing is, there is a type of fire designed for these conditions, it's just not LNT friendly. But I am afraid that some folks will want a continuation of GSUSA. Heck they have "Journeys" and we have "Adventures" because we are using the same sets of education experts.

One of the things new Scouters with female troops, especially former GSUSA or duel enrolled GSUSA leaders, is that THE BSA AND GSUSA HAVE MAJOR DIFFERENCES IN HOW THEY OPERATE AND DO THINGS! (emphasis). My biggest fear is that female Scouts BSA troops will have adults with only GSUSA experience, and try to use that model when running a Scouts BSA troop. Recruiting is vital is you want to succeed

Those cards came about before computers. Most folks just hand write the info.

HEAR YOU SCOUTS, AND YOU PARENTS TOO, OF THE ... TALE OF TWO EAGLES! Once there were two Eagles. The First Eagle was the son of a "Double Eagle," or an Eagle Scout and Explorer Silver recipient. "Double Eagle" dad pushed and pushed and pushed his son to earn Eagle at the ripe old age of 13. Since the Silver Award was no longer around for Exploring, dad did no pushing for that. Since the First Eagle met his dad's expectations, and thought his journey was over, he quit Scouting at 13, only to rejoin many years later when his own son became a Tiger Cub. Now the First Eagle had a cousin. Both "Double Eagle" Uncle and First Eagle Cousin pushed and pushed and pushed the Scout to earn his Eagle. As a 13 year old Life Scout, he was well on his way to becoming an Eagle at 14. But the Second Eagle took some winding trails after earning Life. First he did a local high adventure program instead of the traditional MB summer camp program, and he had FUN! A few months later he took the NYLT course of its day; Brownsea 22. It was a challenging week and he had FUN. Next Second Eagle was inducted into the OA, becoming a Brotherhood Member before earning Eagle. And guess what, HE HAD FUN! Then Second Eagle went to a National Scout Jamboree and then did a Canadian canoeing trek. It it was FUN. Finally Second Eagle realized he was 17 and some odd months, and he needed to buckle down fast if he was to become an Eagle. He finished everything but his Eagle BOR 5 days before turning 18. And Second Eagle was having so much fun, stayed active in Scouting. He got involved in Sea Scouts, earning Ordinary, and then the OA again, becoming a Vigil. Second Eagle was selected to participate in the European Camp Staff Program, spending an entire summer at Scout camps in the UK. He also attended a World Scout Jamboree. He stayed active in a variety or roles, and was proudest when his three sons earned their Bobcat badge with him as their DL. Now tell me who had more fun in Scouting, my cousin the First Eagle, or me the Second Eagle? Over the years, no one has asked me how old i was when i got it, or how many palms I earned. They ask if I am an Eagle, and what my adventures have been. And I can go on and on about my 35 years in Scouting as a youth and adult. Good luck on your journey. Moral of the story is to learn, take advantage of opportunities as they present themselves, and have fun. "Advancement will come as naturally as a suntan, it's something that just happens in the outdoors." Lord Baden-Powell.

1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) There is a major difference between Cub Scouts and Scouts BSA. With Cubs, adults are in charge, the organize things, and are responsible for the Cubs. In Scouts BSA, the Scout is responsible for themselves, including advancement. This can be hard for new parents, especially former Cub leaders who must "unlearn what you have learned" as Yoda would say. Some have described Boy Scouts as "organized chaos," and it is. 3) IGNORE FIRST CLASS, FIRST YEAR! While the 1980s stats it is based on do show greater, those stats did not take into consideration a variety of factors including, but not limited to: how active the troop is, is it adult led and organized or youth led. An active, youth led troop may have lower advancement rate than an semi active adult driven troop, but the retention is the same, or possibly higher.

Actually, the Native American Song for the OA is the Melvin Kerchee Sr. song that he gifted the OA a very long time ago.

Ok here are some links I have found. And I want to give a shout out to @Kudu and his Inquiry.net website. It has a wealth of information there. And I want to apologize about the wrong year for the 3rd edition of the SMHB, it was published in 1936, not 1929. Ok here to the links that can help. http://scoutmastertroop56.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/8/6/16867144/the_patrol_method_helps_for_scoutmasters.pdf links to a 1938 pamphlet to help SMs. While Bill is not credited, he probably wrote it. http://inquiry.net/patrol/index.htm Is a ton of resources on the Patrol Method. I believe this is Hillcourt's training regimen. @Kudu, please correct me if I am wrong. Start of the training http://inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/index.htm 1st meeting http://inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/1st.htm 2nd meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/2nd.htm 3rd meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/3rd.htm Hike http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/3z_hike.htm 4th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/4th.htm 5th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/5th.htm 6th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/6th.htm PLC Camp Out http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/6z_camp.htm As I stated previously, not advancement oriented, but establishing a youth run troop oriented. Kudu also has posted other materials on training Scouts as well. Another source of info is http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/nonfict.html Looks to be Canadian in origin. EH! Hope this helps.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Seriously though, I will be looking to see if anyone has posted Bill's stuff to the net. Again I lent my copy of the 3rd edition SM handbook, to a Scoutreach SM to help him out. He used it to start 4 troops that he was the SM for. Sadly when he left the area, no one in the troops stepped up to the plate, and they folded. And I didn't get the book back either.

If memory serves, 2010 was on a military installation. We were their guests.

I don't believe CIA is covered, but I know who to ask.

Typically the CO has a number, do all units it charters have the same #. Only time I knew a CO with 2 numbers was when their troop merged with another, and they decided to keep the other troop's number.

I am going to go on a different tangent regarding Webelos 3, and New Scouts William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt wrote a 6 month plan to teach New Scouts how the patrols and troop should be run. It could also be used to train an adult led troop's PLC to become a Scout led troop. It is in his 3rd Ed. Scoutmaster Handbook from 1929. I don't remember which volume it is in, I lent the book out and never got it back. But based upon my memory, Bill's plan IS essentially how Webelos is suppose to be done based upon my experience as a Webelos, and the training I have done and taught. In a nutshell, the SM initially acts as the PL, or if redoing an existing troop the SPL with PLC, and explains and demonstrates what is expected. Everything, pitching tents, cooking, KP, etc Is initially taught by the SM. Over the 6 months, more and more responsibilities are given to the Scouts until by the 6th month, they are running it on their own. One caveat, because Bill's program is not advancement oriented, but rather skills oriented, if you have girls pushing to get Eagle in a hurry, Bill's program is not for you. You may need to update Bill's plan to keep it current, i.e. no ditching of tents. But when I read it a few years back, I saw it's usefulness to a New SM who was having challenges, and it helped him out tremendously, He started 3 or 4 troops using the plan.

She was not a Venturer at the time. That came afterward As for residency, that is open to interpretation. Does a month or 2 and weekends count? I know 2 state will grant citizenship with a 24 hour stay. Key for me is she is not Canadian, nor a member of the BSA when she got Chief Scout Award.

Secret Service are LEOs. They are covered. They actually do financial crimes and counterfeiting. I am talking about Dr. Robert Gates and the father-son camp out he did while working with the CIA. The CIA is not law enforcement, and hence his body guards should not be carrying while he was camping at a BSA activity officially. No one seemed to have a problem with it.

Actually the G2A covers your question. It states " This procedure also applies to members of the BSA(emphasis added) who, while living abroad, have earned advancement in another Scouting association." Since she was not a registered member of the BSA while registered with Scouts Canada, it doesn't count.