well trained, thats what we are, why even crew members have to be trained My COR has to be trained (not ypt either) Crew members have to be trained ilsc, etc so many hoops, so many fingers in the pie, yes, some training is required, but some of it borders on sillyness, rules so vague it will take a lawsuit to straighten out. Way too many helecopters out there, you cant escape them anymore. more training, more time wasted, sorry, cant go, have training to go to. You want to do what? sorry, have to have training, Take a class on what to do if you're not trained enough. Yes, we take personal checks