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If there is a water source, I advocate for filtering. Only carry water for dry camps.
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Evaluating Girls Joining Scouts BSA -- Part One
DuctTape replied to Cburkhardt's topic in Open Discussion - Program
The concept of linked troops was good on surface and if managed well, likely quite successful at the sharing of resources. In my experience, the implementation of linked troops was not even close to the ideal. The reality I have seen is co-ed troops instead with adults using linked troop verbiage. These troops struggle with the implementation not because of the introduction of girls, but because they did not have a strong (or even basic) understanding or use of the patrol method. Basically the girls troop implementation was less than successful because they joined a boys troop which was not successful in its own right. All the problems associated with a boys troop which does not use the patrol method, and other issues were amplified with the introduction of girls into their mix. The adults for the girls troop learned from bad examples. So, the implementation area which could be improved is in defining the linked troop structure, with more guardrails, oversight and adult training from outside the established boys troop to ensure success of the girls troop (and improve the boys troop). -
Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
In our area students all take a course in HS called "Participation in Government". -
Your post prompted me to go look at the date for my Songbook. Much more recent 1966.
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Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
The cooking example was just that, an example. I am not trying to dicker around about what badge(s) are more important than others. The example was illustrative that any badge can be broken down into multiple badges with a more intense focus. It is my opinion that citizenship as 4 separate badges is grossly over-represented in the mB line-up. I have no intention to argue over my opinion. You have yours, we disagree. -
Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
Even if the mB is more knowledge based, the reqs IMO should have the scouts do something with that knowledge whether it be during the acquisition of the knowledge, and/or after the fact. Almost 25% of mBs in one topic is too much IMO. I would also not like it if they had 4 mBs for Cooking. Cooking for family, Cooking on open fire, Cooking International Recipes, Cooking for a Patrol all as different badges. -
Some scout activities are not for every scout. We should not force a scout to participate in activities which they do not enjoy. If the patrol want to sing, and one scout does not want to sing, the patrol could find another role, such as "hold the flashlight as a spot light on the patrol". As an aside, I have been playing with the openAI bot. Here is my latest prompt and the AI response. (This thread was the catalyst for the prompt). write a campfire song for boy scouts and include the guitar chords and music Here is a campfire song for Boy Scouts: Title: "The Scouts of Clearwater" Verse 1: G D We are the scouts of Clearwater G D Adventure is what we seek C G From hiking to campfires to swimming D We're always on the go Chorus: G D Scouts of Clearwater G D Honor and duty our call C G We'll face any challenge D And stand tall Verse 2: G D We learn skills and teamwork G D And make friends along the way C G We'll brave the wilderness D And face any foe Chorus: G D Scouts of Clearwater G D Honor and duty our call C G We'll face any challenge D And stand tall Bridge: C G We'll never give up or back down C G We'll always stand strong and true C G We're the Scouts of Clearwater D And we'll always see it through Chorus: G D Scouts of Clearwater G D Honor and duty our call C G We'll face any challenge D And stand tall.
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Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
IMO, no merit badge can/should be done via powerpoint. If it *can", then the badge is really no more than reading a condensed book. IMO not worthy of a mB which should require scouts to DO more than just "repeat". Second, the mB program is predicated on adult association as a method. A mB reduced to a ppt presentation more often than not has little/no adult association. (It is extremely rare that a mB counselor is skilled enough to use ppt and provide meaningful adult association, mostly b/c if they have the ability they would not choose to use ppt in the first place). -
Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
Well, I would not have kept every single requirement. 😬 -
Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
If I were in charge, I would have used the CIS idea as the catalyst to merge all 3 (now 4) citizenship mBs into one grand Citizenship mB. This is probably not a popular opinion, so be glad I am not in charge. 😜 -
Why do we need the Citizenship in Society merit badge?
DuctTape replied to TheGreenWizard's topic in Issues & Politics
https://www.scouter.com/search/?&q=Citizenship in society&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles -
A difficult challenge with special need Scout/er
DuctTape replied to skeptic's topic in Working with Kids
Bear in mind I have zero experience with Lone Scouts, nor with scouts who have such significant challenges which could necessitate a need to be separate from the group. That said, IMO any part of the Scouting, including Lone Scout should be available to any scout regardless of disability. -
Philosophy on Camping Nights for OA Eligibility
DuctTape replied to InquisitiveScouter's topic in Order of the Arrow
In other non BSA organizations, etc... Resident Camp was contrasted with Day Camp, meaning you stayed for the nights. -
The Patrol Method - Patrols and Outings
DuctTape replied to curious_scouter's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Scout-led. 'nuff said. -
I recall some events, patches were only available to "early-bird registration".
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I agree Matt. I have always looked at advancement and the requirements as part and parcel of the scouting adventure. If the program is diverse, and adults do not shortchange the kids, the requirements will be accomplished by and within a quality program. You are correct there is a disconnect from advancement and program. or worse, the program is advancement. Example: Every campout the scout should be presenting themselves to their PL with proper clothing and a complete pack. This should be SOP. It is SOP when I lead trips for adults. I provide lists and help to ensure they have what is needed; allow them to borrow gear from me. But prior to me leading them into the woods, I make sure they have everything. Final check at the trailhead. If done well, a scout will rarely one&done any requirement because they are all a regular part of the adventure. If most reqs are one&done, then take a look at the program and where the scouts are being shortchanged.
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I do not believe the SM clears the scout for the BOR. The SM conference is not necessarily the last requirement signed off, nor is the SM conference a check of readiness or completion of the other requirements. It is the responsibility of BOR to ensure completion of the requirements. While we may quibble over pass/fail, the BOR can just be suspended and scheduled to reconvene at a later date. Another aspect which I believe needs further discussion is the concept of not penalizing scouts for adult error. It appears that this has been taken to the extreme. What constitutes error vs outright fraud? Is a scout granted all ranks just because some adult signed all his requirements in the book? Do we just throw our hands up and say "we dont penalize the scout for adult error" and give the kid his Eagle badge? If not, then there is some discernment to be made for situation less than this ridiculous scenario. I submit that it will be extremely difficult to formulate a legalistic description as individual scenarios cany vary. I submit this is one purpose of the BOR, to make this judgement at the local level. Not a retest of requirements, but when discovered a requirement was not completed it can be rectified. The BOR should discuss with the scout how to rectify the situation, suspend the BOR and reconvene.
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IMO Charting and membership (youth and adults) should be completely separate. The Charter is an agreement between Council and the COR. Membership is something else entirely. IMO, the Charter should not include any membership names of youth or adults, except the COR who attests to the current numbers of youth and registered adults delineated by troop and committee.
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What is allowed vs what should be done in executive sessions? Having served on an executive board (not associated with scouting), a well run board with ethics (and sometimes by law) will only discuss matters in executive session which outside disclosure may harm the organization financially, or a person. For example, discussion regarding personnel matters: the specifics, legal and fiduciary consequences would be discussed in executive session however the vote (and arguments for/against) would be transparent to the rest of the committee. Sale of real property, the discussion in executive session would only happen if the discussion would adversely affect the sale for the organization and again the final vote (and arguments for/against) would be transparent. Of course this is the ideal and all boards are run by people who make errors either by ignorance, expediency, or malice. Many times I have had to speak up in executive session to remind the other memebers that the discussion of confidential info has concluded, and the rest should include the larger assembly fro transparancy (in my case by law). What I find abhorrent is that those who use executive sessions not as a means to protect individuals privacy (personnel matters) or protect the legal or fiduciary matters of the organization but to hide the decisions and the votes of the specific executive board members, or to circumvent the will of the larger assembly. When this happens, the trust no longer exists and without trust, leadership becomes authoritative. So regarding Council, District, Troop operations... IMHO, this is antithesis to the values of scouting and should not be tolerated by scouters and has no place in Scouting.
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Accidental shooting at Aloha Council camp news
DuctTape replied to Laxplr21's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Having served on a jury where multiple charges were presented. This type of thinking was not present at all. What the multiple charges allowed us to do was to deliberate on the specifics of each charge to determine if the defendant was guilty of any of them. In our case, and I surmise in most others, the difference in the charges was the particulars in the law specific to each charge. The judge was excellent in providing instructions so we understood exactly what was needed to have been proven by the DA beyond a reasonable doubt to support each of the different charges. Some of them were unbelievably specific. Prior to my service I did not know that the jury had to parse all the details for the specifics. I thought that was the judge's job if the jury said "guilty". Jury duty was not easy, but it was a fantastic learning experience. -
If she is in the position, it counts. If she is failing to perform, then she should no longer be in the position. My initial thought was also, 5 scouts and an SPL? Superfluous position. You have one patrol, and the PL.
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What I observe in the highest performing units: Patrols planning and executing outings independently (and sharing/advising via the PLC.) Scouts taking personal responsibilty for their own advancement (and encouraging/helping others in their Patrol) SM/ASMs using the Socratic Method to help a PL, SPL, etc. make decisions. (and recognizing the instances when these questioning techniques need to be at the SM request). Regular, ongoing SM conferences throughout the year, not just as an advancement check-off. (Every meeting conferences are happening.) Troop Committee has multiple members who fulfill the responsibilites without interferring with the scouts program.
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Welcome! Having a a strong and functional Comm will make your job easier. You can focus on program as is your responsibility. Look forward to hearing your success stories.
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The "approval" as I have always believed is solely whether the Committee is able to provide the necessary logistical and financial support. ie, two-deep leadership, transportation, permits, etc. The only reason for "disapproval" IMO is b/c the troop committee is unable to facilitate providing e.g. enough drivers for the activity. The primary purpose of the Comm is to support the Scouts plan, not approve/disapprove their plan.