DuctTape

It is their own organization, I would think so.

Whatever your unit decides, be sure to clear it with your COR. I would recommend, the COR be the final arbiter.

I have always looked at this situation as both sides WILL lose out. There is no winning here.

Was talking to scout the other day who was lamenting about the polarization of society. He mentioned other adults in his life who cannot even say hi to each other anymore let alone have a civil discussion. We talked about how it is ok to disagree and have discussions. We pondered how much better society would be if folks engaged in these types of discussion had the primary goal of trying to understand why the other person has a different opinion and were not soley focused on trying to convince the other person. Listening to understand, not to respond.

Assuming the $103B is what should be owed, isn't the purpose of bankruptcy due to not being able to pay all debts? Therefore isn't the whole point of the bankruptcy judge to determine what reduced amounts each creditor will recieve?

I think there has been enough hyperbole, sarcasm and thinly veiled personal attacks recently. Perhaps everyone who has posted in the last 24 hours should take the weekend off. Enjoy your family, go for a hike. Do something else besides post on this or related threads. Perhaps after the weekend folks could return to discuss ideas and not cast aspersions at each other. We can disagree without being disagreeable. I will be the first to take my own advice...

I do not think think this response was called for. You certainly know that no one here, including the person you quoted believes any abuse is "ok". You are better than this.

As Barry pointed out, the mission statement is vague and does not capture the essence of "what and how". The mission and the program are different. One only needs to look at other corporate mission statements to see how they are vague and do not represent the what and how. I submit for example the mission statement of McDonalds, "to be our customers favorite place and way to eat and drink". Over the years McDs has certainly changed some menu items and other aspects for business reasons, but at their core they are still fast food hamburgers and milkshakes.

Hiking, camping and other outdoor pursuits have grown for sure. Data confirms this. IMO, you are correct that scouts is really not outdoors focused. On this board many have lamented how scouts is advancement oriented. I agree. Over time scouts shifted from outdoors focus with advancement simply as a natural outcome of doing the outdoor activities to advancement being the primary focus with the outdoors being an option.

Welcome to the virtual campfire. Grab yourself a cuppa.

hmmm. While I agree with the concept of recruiting for scouts, I am not sure it is a good idea to require a public school to have a private organization recruit to a captive audience.

But it is not our duty to make this determination. It is our duty to report it, and let those who are tasked with investigating do their job.

That may be true, but just because others may not be responsible with following through on their part part does not absolve me from doing the right thing.

yes, If he is wearing the uniform with the unit number I agree he is acting in that capacity. This goes along with the uniform as a method; it visually designates which group (council, troop, patrol, etc...) which the wearer is representing.

I would still call HQ that you have heard some things which are concerning. Let them investigate. Not our job to seek out or wait for evidence, that is the purpose of investigating. We report concerns.

I see this as conflating two distinct perspectives. Perhaps I am misinterpreting. 1. The dad (and his scout) visited a troop. 2. The den leader visited a troop with his cub(s). The fact that a father also is a den leader conflates the two. Unless he was acting in the capacity of the den leader then I would not expect him to communicate to the cubmaster except perhaps informally in casual conversation just like any other cub father.

My college roommate (and best friend) is color blind. We started a software company back in the late 90s to provide computer games for the blind primarily due to his color blindness and issues with video games.

Do you or anyone else know the $ amount (if any) listed on the BSA's insurance policy? Please forgive my ignorance as my only experience with insurance policies is car, house, life, and medical and all of them have maximum $ amounts as part of the policy.

Site selection at both the macro and micro level are (should be) fundamental aspects of the program.

I was asked to be be a Camping mB counselor for a Merit Badge U. The director said it would be focused on first year scouts with little/no experience. She asked me if I wanted a 2hr or 4hr morning session for them to get the badge. After explaining that I would be happy to do an "intro to camping mB" session but that camping mB for new scouts could not be done in that time frame. She then asked if another session in the afternoon would suffice for them to get the blue card signed off. Grrrr.

I do not accept "we cannot judge the past norms of the day based on current norms" arguments. Just because many people accepted a behavior at a certain point in history did not make that behavior ok. Yes it is acceptable to judge folks for past behavior "under current norms". It was wrong back in the day even if many accepted it as a "norm". Heck, many (most? all?) who accepted it at the time knew it was wrong at the time.

Agreed. The investigation of an alleged crime is in the purview of law enforcement and the juducial system. If the parent believes the actions rise to the level of harassment it behooves her to file charges and let the investigation ensue.

Sexual harassment is likely a criminal act in your State. Encourage the parent to call the authorities. The Council will have a difficult time ignoring a volunteer with a criminal complaint especially right now. Unfortunately it is likely the parent will balk at the notion with one of many reasons.

Intent matters; regardless of conscious or subconscious.

The SOL for criminality should not exist. Obviously we cannot open that to past cases, but the SOL for the criminal behavior of abuse should be eliminated from this day forward.