I joined cubscouts late in my boyhood, quit when the Den Leader canciled the first camp out. Joined Boy Scouts, and loved it. Made Eagle Scout, Chapter Chief for OA, Philmont, and later Assistant Scoutmaster till I joined the Army. Now I have a son that was a tiger last year and now we are in the wolf den. Something I learned as I went through the ranks, is to listen to those that have walked the trail before you, and you may now fall into as many of the traps that they have already stumbled across. I am always looking to learn a new idea. Brian