OldGreyEagle

I guess those hundreds of thousands of people who demonstrated against the war were just latent Texasists, I am not sure any president has ever had a 100% Approval rating, but those against President Obama are labeled Racists Wait, those against the War were labeled Unpatriotic, assigningunflattering labels to our opponents is American as Apple Pie (yet I think the Germans made it first) The people in the Tea Party are the Children of H Ross Perot and even some Veterans of Perot's "Reform Party" disaffected Americans for whom Politics was just a faceless bureaucracy and fighting them was no use. Perot gave them hope and then when he quit on them they returned to their disaffected state, further embitteres by the experience. Its been awhile and now they are back, its not Racism, its anger. When does an angry man make sense?

Ahnold is the Governor of Kalli-fornia

And Trev, H4H's theology does not prevent it from accepting your contributions

well then what about "the local option" a chartering organization selects whomever they want to be their adult leaders, Gay, Atheist, whatever and then the responsibility for the actions of the leaders is with the Chartering Organization. No need to change the program, unit leaders are chosen by the Chartering Organization by whatever criteria they have Don't define family values, can't be done, it's like each political party saying they stand for Tradiitonal American Values, I don't know what that means The Family Values of a strict Roman Catholic Family may differ than those of a Unitarian Family and that is only based on Religion. The family living in the rural south may have quite a different take on Family Values from those in the San Francisco Bay area. Note, none of these are "wrong" they are just different and by the time you get an acceptable wording for everyone you aint sayin squat, if you know what I mean ? (This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

Habitat for Humanity is a Christian Organization, they make no excuses, no apologies, they say they follow the teaching's of Jesus Christ. They also allow anyone who wishes to help them accomplish their Mission A similar path is somehting to consider

Just a minor pick, the United Way has not stopped supporting Boy Scouts. One must relaize that United Way Chapters are not run nationally, some United Way Chapters may have stopped supporting Boy Scouts, but not ALL United Way Chapters and to say that United Way has stopped supporting Boy Scouts as a blanket statement, well that's just not true. When I spot such an obvious error in the opening statement of an opening post I have to wonder about the veracity of the poster, what other errors are there that I dont know about?

Yeah, I know, I am a pig for wanting the youth to be creative, sue me Yet again, you prove my point

So, lets have BSA sponsor a TV show, like they did on the outdoor channel(?) except we call it What Knot to Wear. We get Stacy London and Clinton Kelly to help Scouters figure out just which knots to wear and look competent but not showy...

"official written troop policy has been one per meeting" Which is why offical written troop policy is not worth the paper its written on. That paper could have been functional and been a paper airplane rather then sitting useless. OK, now that this policy has been ignored, what does that tell you about the rest of the troop policies? If they are not in keeping with the BSA, then they have no reason to exist. I can imagine a few 14 and 15 year old mad as hell that that young kid got two BORs in one night when I was told I couldnt. What did those older youths learn? That the adults running the show are capricious and arbitraily and if you have a strong and obnoxious advocate it trumps following the rules. BSA will be gone in 20 years, too many morons in the bushes

I had always thought that a skit was supposed to be a units "gift" to the audience, a way of sharing themselves with strangers and entertaining them. A demonstration of their own uniqueness and individuality. To do a well worn hackeneyed insipid inane repeat of tripe seems lacking in many things

So we are saying is that there is no way to be entertaining to 8 year olds without pandering to bathroom jokes? Sesame Street, Mr Rogers, the Disney Host of Companies all seem to do a pretty good job of entertaining 8 year olds and the like without reliance on bathroom humor How did Kukla Fran and Ollie ever keep youngsters attention? Nobody ever farted on that show

Got a few PMs about what kind of original skits have I seen, helped write, this is one that can be done in honor of 100 years of scouting, it takes 8 scouts Around a Campfire Scout 1: I am so glad to be out of the house, all my parents think about is scouting, my dad wants to serve tin foil dinners at my birthday party this year Scout 2: You think thats bad? My parents looted my college fund to buy Coleman stock when they got a tip they were coming out with a propane powered microwave camp stove. Scout 3: Yeah, well my dad opens bills with his pocket knife Scout 4: My dad went out to get a new car and he came back with 1989 Chevy Impala Wagon because it had a Fleur de lis hood ornament Scout 5: My Dad was arrested at the airport, he wouldnt let go of his toe nail clippers until the TSA guy said thank you Scout 6 Last winter when we lost power for a day my parents started using the 3 pot method for washing dishes, and We are STILL USING IT! (Scout 7 and Scout 8 walk onto stage) Scout 7: Hey, what are you guys doing?, Scout 1: Oh, we are just talking about how nuts our parents are over scouting, Arent you the twin brothers who just joined the Troop? We don't know your names Scout 8 Yes, just joined and our parents are unquestionably the most nuts over scouting, without a doubt! Scout 2: Oh yeah? What makes you so sure? Scout 8 You want to handle that one Baden? Scout 7 No, you take it Powell.(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

then again the highest rated show in Bravo's history is an episode of "The Real Housewives of New Jersey"

Well, after that protocol gaffe in Indonesia, I think we can conclude the Obama's are not Islamic, otherwise she wouldnt have shaken hands with Information Minister Tifatul Sembiring. Unless of course you beleive that Michelle doesn't know her husband is a Muslim. I guess that would work Anyway, the biggest concern I take away from Tea Partiers is the abject passion they have, they just are "as mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore", the issue is, when you fly on pure emotion you tend to make logic errors and may sound silly to those who are not as enraged as yourself, but that does not make you any less enraged. The Tea Partiers represent a disaffected segment of the population that doesnt like where we are now and wants to know what happened and when the hear patronizing answers and comments they just go off on emotion. It will take real communication, on both sides, to understand the issues and I am not sure that can happen. Yeah, Sarah Palin,,, the best thing about being a front runner for a presidential nomination is they never get nominated. Wasn't Hillary the presumed nominee up to the time Obama qualified for it? Palin and Obama pretty much have the same background, little experience and speak in platitudes and generalities and never really say anything. And oh yeas, they both have supporters who will rip your lungs out if you say anything bad about them. There used to be a saying that any boy born in the United States could grow up to be president, do we face the Prospect in 2012 that this won't happen ?(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

Whether its the Firing Squad Skit, The Lighthouse Skit (The WINDOW!), Smooth and Creamy, et al they just drive me nuts. I appreciate an original skit, modeled on the Camp Staff, Recent events or music. Havin the youth do the same inspid routine they have seen for years is as mind numbing an experience as I ever have endured. Nothing like a protracted "Loon full of Sugar makes the Medicrine go down" or Motorcycle/Roughriders skit (This guy has had enough, lets get the guy in the tent) to make me want to scratch my eyes out Original skits, done with local references are my favorite

When I was a kid, wearing blue jeans meant you were just like the older cooler kids in the neighborhood, never thought that it meant you were a commoner My parents taught me to regard people by their behavior, never thought clothes entered into it much Thought if you think enough of an organization to join it, you follow its rules.

Hey dad, can you explain how you adjust the carburetor? Well, son, you have to gibreate the gabriel with the wemlinger while mainting adequte torque with the gameranous Never did figure out what that meant, but it was pretty much the stock answer for all questions automotive

The Troop of my youth was quite the happening group. The Troop was expanding past the space limitations of the church that sponsored us and beyond the pool of adults that was volunteering. The Troop committee hatched a plan. Please recognized this was circla 1970, First we were Troop 65 the Troop placed a cap of 65 scouts and had a waiting list, first come first served. Then the Troop required at least one adult in the scouts family to work on the Troop Committee in some fashion. There was some leniency for "special circumstances" ie single parents but back then it wasnt an issue, Having single parents that is. The Scouts then had attendance requirements, remember it was 1970, not near the present time but the COmmittee's thought was if you didnt want to attend troop meetings and functions, they had a list of youth who did. It stayed that way for 3 years and then the crest rode down, but the logic stayed with me. Not sure how it would work today, but it has some things you may consider

I got to tell you all, I feel a whole lot of love in this room right now!

I love reading the works of Thomas Hardy, "Far From the Madding Crowd" and "Tess of the D'ubervilles" are significantly poignant. One of the above two has a comment on old English life that families living in the country had a real quandry on their hands when it came to church attendance. If you showed up to services on Sunday too often, well then you were just trying to show up your neighbors and were trying to be much holier than they and were being to prideful and needed to be a little more humble. If you stayed away from church too often, well then, you were a heathen, a ne'er-do-well, a miscreant of all sorts. I beleive the correct mix of church attendance was based on each individual. What they did was correct, what others did was either pridefull or deviant Poor Tess, Poor Jude

I have to ask, what would/could a DE do if you sent an unapproved flier out? Pull your charter? There has to be some reason, perhaps an agreement with the School that only certain language may be used, or not I have no idea but I would love to see a DE get all excited and angry about any unit recruiting

If you have a troop that is too big to run the Patol Method, then your Troop is too big period

A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet, those are some cool train set ups no matter what they call them

Oddly enough, a Putz (long U) is also a Moravian Tradition http://www.easthillsmc.org/putz.html That's the CO of the Unit I serve

Hey Lady, good work I think in the final analysis, leaving something better than you found it is the scouting way ...