OldGreyEagle

Kudos and a high five NJ for answering a veritable plethora of quotes from 2, 000 plus year old philosophers with a single phrase from undoubtedly one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century, good 'ol Charlie Brown

...and now a word from Scoutmasters Hans and Franz... C'mon you little girly man scouts, you are worthless and weak, what kind of man are you? Don't worry though because at Troop 666 sponsored by the Attila the Hun Fan Club we are here to (Altogether now everyone) PUMP YOU UP, JA !

From the Guide to Safe Scouting: "A sharp pocketknife with a can opener on it is an invaluable backcountry tool. Keep it clean, sharp, and handy. Avoid large sheath knives. They are heavy and awkward to carry, and unnecessary for most camp chores except for cleaning fish. Since its inception, Boy Scouting has relied heavily on an outdoor program to achieve its objectives. This program meets more of the purposes of Scouting than any other single feature. We believe we have a duty to instill in our members, youth and adult, the knowledge of how to use, handle, and store legally owned knives with the highest concern for safety and responsibility. Rememberknives are not allowed on school premises, nor can they be taken aboard commercial aircraft." Note it does not prohibit sheath knives, just to avoid them. The counsel already mentioned about matching the tool to the job is so sage as to preclude any addendum to it

Wheeler so I get this straight, are you saying Ed has the choice of getting opinions, which are offered quite freely by nearly all of the forums posters, or does he seek knowledge of which you are sole distributor? Sorry Ed, I had to ask

An old man, going a lone highway, Came at the evening, cold and gray, To a chasm vast and deep and wide, Through which was flowing a sullen tide. The old man crossed in the twilight dim, The sullen stream had no fear for him; But he turned when on the other side And built a bridge to span the tide. "Old man," said a fellow pilgrim near, "You are wasting your strength in building here, Your journey will end with the ending day, You never will pass this way; You've crossed the chasm deep and wide, Why build you this bridge at eventide?" The builder lifted his old grey head, "Good friend, in the path I've come," he said, "There followeth after me today, A youth whose feet must pass this way, This chasm that has been as nought to me, To that fair-headed youth may a pitfall be. He too, must cross in the twilight dim - Good friend, I'm building this bridge for him."

Personally and possibly on a global scale this bug has been a tragedy of immenese proportions. In the Bush AWOL thread I had writtne the definitive political manifesto which would have been the blue print for American harmony and would have sent the world on a track for global peace in less than 6 months. Alas it was lost in cyber space and the effort that was put forth on what would have been this classic treatise was lost in the despair of knowing those words will never be seen In summation all I can say is, oh the humanity, oh the horror, the horror...

Υποδοχή στο φόρουμ, Μάιος εσείς βρίσκει τη φρόνηση και την ειρήνη

Can an axe be used safely? I think an axe can be used as safely as a propane stove or lantern. An axe is no more dangerous than the evening's campfire or OA Council fire. Use of an axe demands no more, or less vigilance than any waterfront activity. Certainly an Axe is no more dangerous than an Archery or rifle range. Risks are reduced through proper precautions and trainhing, I see no need to eliminate any of the above mentioned items.

Wheeler, what my esteemed colleague is trying to say (and correct me if I am wrong Ed) is that its very tiring wading through masses of quotes and philosphical positions and then not know what message you are trying to impart. An axiom used during the Vaudeville days went along the lines of "You have to know your Audience" this was later changed a bit with the advice offered to the redoubtable Professor Henry Hill, late of River City, Iowa, who was told "You gotta know your territory". No doubt you are proud of your posts and wish to impart your positions to us, but as pretty as your pearls look, this is one swine who has no idea what you are talking about and by the comments following your posts, many other posters feel the same way. Could you spend less time quoting the work of others and let us know your own personal view?(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

All great suggestions Ed Organizing and staffing a family garage sale as well as applying the proceeds to a family vacation or purchase Reorganizing a closet, complete with the addition of shelves and an additional closet post Painting a room with a family selcted paint

Doubtless by the time you read this my stock and stars will have plummeted much like Howard Dean's bank account... But regardless, I shall remain humble, humility is an admirable trait not often seen today and if there is anything I am proud of, its got to be my humility...(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

Its hard to visualize a discussion when you already Know all the answers

Ed, I thought you were the guy who didn't care if anyone tracked your whereabouts or what you read, or said or posted on the Web because you don't have anything to hide? Why be concerened here?

"other than pushing one's own button over and over" Actually Fuzzy, there are some posters I would just rather have push their own button's rather than push the buttons of other posters...

We know so little about each other here, scouts for whom I counsel the Citizenship in the Nation merit badge will tell you the difference between a republic and democracy as I explain it in the first 5 minutes whenever I start this badge. As we have Jewish, Hindu and Chrisitian scouts in this troop, I tend to leave biblical references out. If the question is what did I learn, the answer is I have heard the sound of an axe being ground before, and am accostumed to it. The Right grinds its' axes, and the Left grinds theirs' that is nothing new. It would be refreshing if some side would exhort its position explaining its merits bereft of decrying the other side.(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

Exactly Bob, I think I will rank your post number one!!!

Dont worry Mark, he found the Politics section as well. And to think I shut off "The Darkness" video "A thing called love" just before I read this...

B-P was not born into royalty, he was "knighted" after starting the Boy Scout movement. He was one of 10 children of a professor at Oxford. His early childhood has never been described by anything I have seen as privileged or characterized by wealth, his father having died when he was three and himself home schooled early on. When I listen to his speeches I can see the roots of today's scout ideals quite clearly. He advocated service to others, loyalty to one's country, and a "healthy" lifestyle which I take to be one that is physically active. He spends a lot of time talking about developing charactor which is oddly enough one of the BSA's aims. The three aims of scouting are Charactor, Citizenship and Physical Fitness, all virtually lifted from B-P himself. You may also wish to check your facts on the English army, Indeed in the past Officers only came from the aristocracy, but that had been changed prior to B-P's military service, and B-P was one of the first "commoners" allowed to be an officier, in fact he placed second in the "admissions test" and that allowed him to quite literally "Pick his post" and thus he became part of the 13th Hussars

Funny thing about perceptions, I didnt take Baden-Powell to have been an aristocrat(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

I am not sure I would base my research on a web-site that is anti-Boy Scout any more than I would tell you to only use official BSA web sites, I think to get a full feeling of the issue, you will have to peruse many sites, some pro, some con Boy Scout and then use your own judgement to decide what the issues are

I live in Bethlehen, we go to the climbing gym in Reading alot called Reading Rocks, actually its in Wyomissing.

Dana, where in PA are you?

Well, mark, when you list the definitive answer, it should end it,

Thank you LV, it was quite a project, half way through it there was talk in my family of naming my capote as I was spending a lot of time with it, the first suggestion was of course Truman, Since I plan to develop a story teller charactor starting with this coat, I decided to name it Don, Don Capote... (This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

Ron, do you mean "Chupacabra" ? Now thats far out!!!