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  1. Please remember the original part of this debate. We have to consider the Pornography as a whole. So only discussing sexting doesn't accomplish anything. Saying what you would do if underage is not accomplishing anything. You need to assume that the porn is legal, as 99.5% of it is. How would you handle it then. Please no more arguments about liability about confinscating kiddie porn. Adress the bulk of the issue --- the 99.5%. Also, we need to limit ourselves to the real issue -- porn that is 99.5% legal on a phone, not the possibility that scouts will take pictures in the shower. We are not debating allowing/disallowing cell phones. IMO, you can't do anything really. If the other kids want to see it, they will. If you catch a kid he doesn't stop. He just hides better. And then we get into the "morally straight" argument. Please define how we determine what is moral. 99/100 times the answer to this is "What the majority believes is acceptable and correct" Using this same definition I can conclude that, as statistics say that 97% of boys under 16 admit to seeing porn before, the majority believes this is acceptable, and morally acceptable. I would be delighted to hear other definitions of moral.
  2. Everyone seems to be forgetting that all paintball places carry their own insurance. If you go to a paintball place and get hurt, who cares if the scouts will insure you or not. You are insured by the place already.
  3. Just go play it anyway, 'unoficially'. Guys from our troop go play paintball all the time, but not as a "troop" function.
  4. None of the above actions are the best course of action, really. You are not going to make the scout stop in the long run. All his friends do it too. To illustrate my point, I will use a real life example involving a teacher and Freshman boys. Teacher borrows student a's phone on a car trip to use the internet, as he had unlimited internet usage. She and student b are trying to look up the phone # for a hotel they were going to stay at. They saw porn links in the browser history of the student a's phone and even clicked on one (accidentally I assume). Point is, student a could not argue about the posession and what could the teacher do? She could punish student a .... but she was the one that asked to borrow his phone in the first place. Plus, that would only make student a hide it even better next time. In fact, she was even able to get the other Freshman guys to stop needling him about it by stating that "So you've never looked at it before, lets search your phone/computer" and "I don't want him to be embaressed every time he sees me in class again". The other freshman truly believed that they would be found guilty if their stuff was searched. Nothing more was said about this by anyone probably a day after it happened. Does he still look? Yes. Does everyone else? Yes. Did the teacher handle it in the most friendly and non-demeaning way? Yes. One more thing, Kids are smart these days. I have never seen an incoming freshman class before that knew so much about hiding history on the internet. Finally, don't bother the kid about it. The only thing he will learn is to be more careful around you with it. Not to stop it.
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