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The composites merit bade is not about plywood. Composites are a combination of plastic resin and a fiber reinforcement. The badge is about things like fiberglass, kevlar and carbon fiber. Developing the merit badge was funded by a gift from the M.C. Gill Corporation. SR540Beaver, if you could get Lazy Boy to fund it we might get a reclining merit badge.

Things are just to quiet in this forum. This country does not have an offical language. The Constitution does not specify what language free speach must be in. Singing the national anthem in Spanish will not prevent anyone from learning English. I would much rather hear the national anthem in Spanish or Navaho or any other language than not hear it at all. Spanish Anthem Creating Controversy Angela Word, KFOX Associate Producer POSTED: 7:17 pm MDT April 28, 2006 April 28, 2006 -- You may not think of the national anthem as controversial, but a new rendition is rocking not only the airwaves, but the public's opinion. The Spanish language recording of America's national anthem debuted on radio stations nationwide Friday evening. Creators claim it was recorded to inspire patriotism among the Latino population, but others are calling it the illegal immigrant anthem. At least one company that owns five El Paso radio stations has made the decision not to play the anthem regardless of the public's opinion. "We will not play that. We just feel that we're doing enough, reporting being involved. You know, we've gone to our extent on how we're going to help out the community," said Joe Garcia, of Entravision Radio. "If people are patriotic and they wish to have something in their own language that belongs to this country, I mean, yeah great," said Mike Cruz, of West El Paso. The Spanish anthem has already caught the attention of President George W. Bush. He stated that while Americans welcome people from all over the world, immigrants should learn to sing the song in English.

I'm struggling with the same issues. As I see it a troop can lose its older boys two ways. The first is to not let them participate in age appropriate activities. My sons troop lost most of it's older boys a few years ago because the boys felt they couldn't have fun with the troop. The other way is to have all the older boys join a separate venturing crew. I am trying a middle ground. When my son's crew formed a few months ago and I agreed to be advisor I made it clear that if they wanted to use the building and the troop gear, they needed to help plan and participate in troop activities. The crew is small and comes mostly from the troop. All of the boys are registered with both the troop and crew. So far they have arranged a shooting day at a local rife range, helped with the art merit badge, planned a five mile hike for the new scouts and are talking about a canoe day. So whats the problem? The adults of course. At a recent campout three boys from the crew went as their own patrol. The rest of the troop went as a troop. None of the boys was designated as PL even though there were boys that are not in the crew who could have been good leaders if they had the chance. The crew went to a venturing cracker barrel. Some of the adults felt they should have stayed with the troop. In the morning the crew cooked their breakfast, cleaned up and packed their own gear. They loaded most of the troop gear in the trucks and helped the younger boys take down tents. The younger boys did a very poor job of cleaning dishes. According to some of the adults this was some how the Venturing crew's fault. At the last meeting the SM blew up when one of the boys called the crew a crew. He insists that it's a venturing patrol. I'm not sure what he thinks our one girl is doing. Some of the boys are now talking about looking for a new crew to join. At our last meeting with a little pushing from me all of the new boys were assigned to patrols. Hopefully our next campout will be by patrols. I have told the crew to help younger boys if they are asked, but to be careful not to undercut the PL's authority. They are to backup and advise the patrol leader not replace him. I am hoping that venturing done right will keep the older boys interested by allowing them to participate in some separate activities that they will enjoy. In return for this I expect them to help the troop. One of the boys told me "We come to scouts for fun and babysit for money." / Thanks for letting me vent.

Trevorum, Kaji Interesting discussion. In this county we make accommodations for the minority all the time. The Americans with Disabilities act requires reasonable accommodation in the workplace. In some parts of the country government documents are available in languages other than English. School cafeterias serve fish on Fridays during Lent for those who prefer not to eat meat. We dont however close government offices on every religious holiday. As Trevorum has said it depends on the specific issue. Exactly when and were the line is drawn will take someone wiser than me to decide. What about the other way around? If 95% disapprove and 5% approve of something should the 95% make it illegal? For example, since most people are against animal sacrifice should it be illegal even for religious reasons? Lets assume that the animals are killed humanely and disposed of properly. Should Nazis be allowed freedom of speech? When does free speech cross the line and become incitement to violence? My personal opinion is that unless any action can be shown to be harmful to others or society that it should be legal. By being harmful I dont mean offending someone. We are guaranteed many rights by the Constitution, including some such as privacy that are not explicitly written down. I dont believe there is a right not to be offended.

Dan, There are Scientology Charter Organizations. It struck me toward the end the World War II that I never would have gotten through the war alive had it not been for the training I had had in scouting. Of all the various information which became important to me, such as photography, wood lore, signaling and many other subjects, the basis of it was laid in scouting. I am very indebted to a great many, very fine men who gave their time and attention to a restless, boisterous and extremely active boy and teenager L. Ron Hubbard, Founder, Church of Scientology I'm not a Scientologist but thought this was interesting.

What music can you and the scouts in your vehicle agree on when on your way to a campout? On a recent trip I let the boys pick CDs on the way to the campout and I picked them on the way back. I discovered that I hate Weird Al. I dont care for Nirvana or AC/DC. Greenday is not too bad. The boys thought Stevie Ray Vaughn, Pink Floyd, The Who and the Grateful Dead were all right. Any ideas? What about lyrics that are not appropriate? How do you know with out previewing the CD what is there? How can you understand what is there?

What? Christmas displays are illegal? I seem to recall some just a few months ago. Its great that we are all allowed to practice what ever religion (or none) that we want and openly celebrate the holidays. Its also great that we dont have to pay taxes to support others religions. If we lived in the society that LongHaul advocates it wouldnt be long before some demagogue, wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, would whip up 51% of a community and get them to declare a native born, white, fundamentalist Christian, republican only area. Democracy must be more than simply majority vote. The rights of the minority must be protected. Striking down laws does not limit freedom, passing laws does.

LongHaul, Your post makes no sense. You want to tell people where they can live, what religion to practice, what they can wear and when they can open their business and then you say you should respect others views. Which is it?

I dont know what disturbs me more, the continuing revelations of government abuse of rights or the lack of public reaction. What makes anyone think that the government wont want to continually expand its powers? The steps taken so far have been small. The patriot act; wiretapping with out a warrant; and watching antiwar protesters, environmental groups and religious organizations are all small step toward restricting freedom. Once these are accepted what is next? Th following is from yesterday's Washington Post FBI Took Photos of Antiwar Activists in 2002 By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, March 15, 2006 An FBI agent in Pittsburgh photographed members of an antiwar activist group in 2002, according to documents released yesterday by the American Civil Liberties Union, which said the disclosure marks the latest incident in which the FBI has monitored left-leaning groups. An FBI report from November 2002 indicates that an agent photographed members of the Thomas Merton Center as they handed out leaflets opposing the impending war in Iraq. The report called the group a "left-wing organization advocating, among many political causes, pacifism." The same memo notes that one of the leaflet distributors "appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent" but that no other participants appeared to be from the Middle East. "All we were doing was handing out leaflets, which is a perfectly legal way to spend an afternoon," said Tim Vining, the center's former executive director, who said he participated in the Nov. 24, 2002, protest monitored by the FBI. "All we want to do is exercise our First Amendment rights . . . Is handing out fliers now considered a terrorist activity?" The FBI said in a statement that the agent was "acting with all appropriate investigative authorities" as part of an ongoing terrorism probe. The photos were destroyed once the agent determined that a person under investigation was not in attendance at the event, the FBI said. The incident is the latest disclosure by the ACLU involving antiwar protesters, environmental groups and religious organizations that have been monitored by FBI agents or other anti-terrorism investigators. Another memo from February 2003 said the center was "opposed to the United States' war with Iraq" and described its Web site and activities. That letter was a draft that was never included in an investigative file, the FBI said. Heavily censored documents from 2005 also refer to information about the center from an unidentified source. An FBI official said those reports were from a separate probe that did not involve terrorism.

It is clear to me that our founding fathers meant to protect the minority against the will of the majority. That is why we have a republic not a democracy. As James Madison said when discussing democracy in the Federalist Papers "there is nothing to check the inducement to sacrifice the weaker party or the obnoxious individual." John Adams said "It is...as necessary to defend an individual against the majority in a democracy as against the king in a monarchy." Thomas Jefferson said, "The minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." And James Madison, wrote this: "It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part." If the authors of the Bill of Rights wanted our rights to be narrowly interpreted why did they write "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people"?

Rooster, Are saying that there should be no protection of the minority from the tyranny of the majority? If the majority passes a law requiring students to recite the pledge of allegiance even if it violated their religious beliefs is that right? Can ministers be prohibited from serving in a state legislature if it is the will of the majority? School segregation was once popular. Should it therefore been legal? If a municipality bans baptism on public property should the minority who wishes to use the property for that purpose be forced to elect new representatives? These are examples of why we have a constitution that guarantees freedoms and courts that will ensure that the supreme law of the land is followed.

UK: http://www.escouts.org.uk/forum/ US: http://www.scouter.com/forums/

In the UK you need a license for your pet fish.

What about the important things? I understand that duct tape is called gaffer tape in the UK.

While I think the public concern over security at the ports is overdone and is being stirred up for political ends, I also think that the Bush administration is getting what it deserves. They whipped up public support for the invasion of Iran by implying a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Now they see no problem with dealing with a county with strong ties to Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Public statements by our president continually emphasize that we are at war with terror and that he has been given extraordinary power to limit freedom in this country. If this is the case then shouldnt he be subjecting this deal to extraordinary scrutiny? I would like to know if our government will be listening to the port operators phone calls.