I read over and over all of posts on this subject. Here is my 2 cents worth...1st post "single mom", this has no relavance to the young mans problems. Then you go into the posts about what intelligence level ADHD kids may or may not have. This was only a brief mention in the post made by ScoutmomAng, where there was much more said than just this simple 2 liner. Oaktree, came back with a long explanation where he/she even went and did research on the 2 liner to discredit the statement. These things don't help this boy. Who cares what the intelligence level of ADHD kids is. It's not relevant to this situation and isn't helping the leaders. I'm trying to see the big picture here. Is the leaders frustration and agravation with this boy picked on by the other members of the pack (adults and boys)? Most people aren't even aware that this is happening. They are too frustrated and tired of the behavior to see that it shows whether they mean it to or not. If you think for one second that the other members in the pack don't pick up on and react towards the boy what they are sensing from the others in the pack you are mistaken. One of the reasons the boys shun him the way they do is because they are showing the same frustration that they pick up on from the adults. No one else likes him, so why should they. The ADHD boy is also reacting to the frustration that he is sensing from everyone around him. All kids react to peer pressure good and bad. The other boys should be encouraged to use peer pressure in helping this boy with his outbursts not only during meetings but in and out of school as well. Does he have any friends at all? I can't even imagine where this boys self esteem is. Okay, mom may not be doing the best job to try and help her own son, she's probably just as frustrated with him as everyone else. Which he picks up on as well. My feeling is medication or no medication he needs proofessional behavior modification. If mom doesn't understand how to help him, the leaders and other adults don't understand him or his needs, the question is what as scout leaders is our contribution going to be to this boys success in life. How much can you personnally as a scout leader give to him? He needs a professional who does understand his needs to help him with behavior modification and once he begins to get that he needs the complete support of his peers and adults in his life to help him be successful and grow up to be a respected upstanding citizen in this judgemental world we live in. Do you as a scout leader have the control to send him in the right directions so you can be a support base? Not really, his parents need to be the ones to take the first step,(single or not) but she needs to know that she has support from the leadership in this organization to maybe help her to take that big step. It's hard for parents to admit they need help, and hard for them to put everything else in their life second and do what is best for their child. We have no clue as to what other personal issues they as a family could be dealing with. What is their priorities? You have a tough choice here, but please think about the damage you will do to this child if you make the decision to send him away. Make sure you have exhausted all of your options. I don't believe that any child is a lost cause. There is someone out there who can make a huge contribution to this boys success, the question we as leaders need to ask ourselves, is what will our role be in his life? Are the members in your pack going to be the ones that help him move forward or are you going to be like everyone else has been and turn away from him? Your unit as a whole needs ask themselves this before you make your final decision. Good Luck to you and your unit, and best of luck to the young man your concerned about.