troop366eagle

I completely understand that not all Eagles should be SPL, but it concerns my Troop personally. After a Scout achieved Eagle, he could not hold any other position in the Troop besides a JASM, as I believe I have stated before. What I was looking for was if other troops allowed Eagles to run for SPL and have the chance to be elected to be SPL by his peers. Thanks so much for all the great tips and discussions!

Ok guys! Thank you all so much for the suggestions about leadership and how to work with the May Skills campout. I have just arrived home from the campout. I am currently loaded with school, so I was only available for today, Saturday, of the 3 days: Friday Afternoon, all of Saturday (Today), and Sunday Morning. A member had asked me to share how it went, so here goes. I arrived this morning, and all seemed well as I pulled up and parked. The boys of the Troop were eating breakfast, but don't judge a book by its cover. After saying hi to everybody, I went in and checked in on our acting SPL. Said hi, asked how everything was going. He said that the SPL that was supposed to lead the campout hadn't sent anything to the acting SPL. No schedule, no nothing. No leader's for stations, etc. He improvised quite well. He had help from the adult leader of the campout of course, but he organized the boys and the stations quite well, with help from a fellow JASM. By the time lunch went around, our acting SPL could not be found- as much. The adult leader needed to find him, and eventually the adult leader came to myself and my fellow JASM. He asked us directly to get things organized and get things done, as our acting SPL could not be found. After reading through all your responses, I was thoroughly displeased that it had come to this. Eventually, our acting SPL was found, but he was messing around with other boys and did not take action to lead. I did take this acting SPL aside a few times to ask him what he needed help with: he was unsure. I also asked what I could do to help him: he replied 'everything'. Overall, I was displeased with the planning of the SPL, along with the leadership shown by this acting SPL (which, sad to say, we knew was coming).

Sorry it took so long to reply to all your posts. As a remark, thank you for the different ideas, suggestions, and questions raised with this question. My question was can an Eagle Scout be an SPL? As an add-on, it was mainly geared toward Eagle Scouts who had NOT held SPL before. In our troop, it has always been customary to 'award' the POR of JASM to any boy who achieved Eagle Scout. In retrospect, maybe we should keep it to 16y.o.+ as we currently have many younger boys (14-15) who are achieving Eagle. The reason I brought up the topic of JASM's in my original post is because it has always been customary to award an Eagle with the POR of JASM. This would mean that they wouldn't need to run of SPL, as they already had a POR. That is why I brought up my question about an Eagle Scout being an SPL. Thanks so much for all the suggestions!

As a note to everybody, I am not a Scoutmaster, I am a JASM with my troop. Thank you all so much for the advice. I will take everything in and try to apply it. A few notes concerning some replies: In the 4 years that I have been with the Troop, there have been a high... drop out rate if an event isn't correctly pulled off. Also, adult leaders, perhaps the best word is scrutinize the event after it is completed. Now, this is probably not needed, but it does have the boys strive for a better event. The reason I had put in the comment about leadership and problem solving is that I wanted to mention that it would probably occur on this campout, and perhaps I should step back and let it go. One comment on the ASPL and leadership. Rightfully so, the adults step back and let the event occur, but if there isn't any leadership shown, then not a lot occurs, and therefore the event is not useful. Once again, thank you so much for the responses and the advice!

Hi guys, didn't know if this belongs under Open Discussion or rank, but I figured I would start here. Should an Eagle Scout be able to be an SPL of a troop? Looking at it, reasonably the Eagle should have the best leadership, or at least better than some younger scouts. Is this reasonable? Or should there be some parameters? My troop is running into some un-addressed issues that have never been brought up before, as we have many younger (15 year-old) Eagle Scouts that are still active. Thanks!

Yes, I did receive a letter from President Obama, among many previous presidents and other current staff. Curiously, I received Hillary Clinton's letter last, but there may be more coming. Obama did take a while, I received mine about 4 months afterward.

Hi everybody! Every year, our Troop does a 'Skills' campout that is based towards our new crossover Scout learning essential skills. This year it was delayed because of weather, but it is currently going to happen this weekend. In the past, I always find myself in situations that require myself to lead a campout instead of the SPL of the campout: either the SPL is not attending, or does not have the best leadership abilities. I know it is a learning experience for every Scout to become an SPL, but there always seem to be problems that always are deferred to me, and I have to resolve them. Our previous SPL is required to lead our Skills campout, as we elect every 6 months. This SPL was a decent leader and is quite friendly, as a Scout should be. To date, he has had a great deal of time to plan it, but it still hasn't worked out. To cut the story short, he has procrastinated, and will not be attending the Skills campout because of his confirmation to the Catholic Church. He has left responsibilities with his ASPL (out of three) that will be there, a Scout that doesn't necessarily know how to lead. Look, it's a long story, but what I'm trying to ask is that how do you other Scouts stop this from happening? Our Troop is completely boy lead, with the SPL choosing Troop jobs, with the exception of JASMs. I'm very frustrated, as this SPL has barely done any work, and will not be attending. I understand a Scout is Reverent, but he could have done a better job planning it. I have a feeling the responsibilities will fall on my shoulders again, and I don't want that to occur. Adivce?