tonys

They are just boys let them be! in a month they will most likely want another name. I let them use most anything as long as they all have patrol patches a flag and a yell/cheer

boy I hate these ZERO Tolerance policies why do we even have administrators if there is no decisions to be made. just my 2 cents

we offer the popcorn as a fund raiser but most of my scouts pass on it and sell Christmas wreaths easier sale and more profit. Thats what my boys say. wreath anyone?

Wasen't it BP who said "never do anything a boy can do and a boy can do quite a lot" we need to trust them not hold them back.

Boys have the last word as to national policy pro's answer to them use 21 an boy age limit. my 2 cents

what I've seen is some summer camps put age restrictions to "keep the kids coming back" they are afraid the kids will cet boared if they do to much to quick. In our troop 11 tear olds can white water (rafts) or rock climb (top rope) we try not to limit any of the boys just my 2 cents tony s

the rulers I remember were steel edged, but that was nothing compared to what happened when mom got the call! aha the good old days.

I seem to remember at training being told to be careful when signing a boys book since you can't take it back I personally think that asking the bor to correct my mistake in really not a good idea either I'd talk to the boy at this point. he is what 11 or 12 and mention the behavior you found objectionable. He can work on correcting it by the time he is ready for 1st class. Also if the behavior was only at camp you might look in to what was going on maybe a lack of structure for the for the first time? or just tired by the end of the week? I think you have time with this boy. keep some notes and work with him through the pl or spl You might want to get their take on it as the boys normally know more about what is going on in the troop than I do. Just my 2 cents. tony

one of those kids will flip the others. most likely kids will sell the adult up river and it is still a kidnapping charge.

The 12-year-old notified scout leaders who immediately called the Putnam County Sheriffs Office. The boys were all taken into custody and deputies said they found duct tape and two bottles of urine at the site where the boy said he was assaulted. Deputies also confiscated a cell phone on which they said is a recording of the entire attack. In addition to Reid, 16-year-old Harrison Reid, 15-year-old Kyler Brower and 16-year-old Nicholas Larsen were also arrested. All four have been charged with Kidnapping a child under 13 and committing aggravated child abuse. The teenagers have been turned over to the Florida Department of Juvenile Justice. seems to me the liquid could be what ever but kidnapping is kidnapping it might be called boys being boys by some parents horse play by others . in this case it involves pretty serious charges. especially for the adult involved. doubt if this incident pleads to community service but that is up th the DA. tony

1ust to try to clarify what I meant by boys will be boys. Boys will be boys was a term used by the parents of a scout whenever they were informed on a behavior issue. Like disappearing from the campsite at summer camp after hours and having the whole scout reservation put on alert. when he was found with some staff he claimed to be gathering firewood for the Saturday night show (except there has never been a Saturday night campfire).Swearing at the Scoutmaster (because he couldn't set up a private campsite in the woods away from the rest of the troop at summer camp(against camp rules). carrying a blackjack, stealing from first year scouts Smoking cigarettes. the other boys said that wasn't the only thing being smoked (had no proof) you get the idea. he transferred to another troop because his parents said we were picking on him. and our idea of checking horseplay normally is "Knock it off" that almost always keep things from escalating to the point someone got hurt. tony

If I may I'm open to any parents helping out step or otherwise. My only condition is that they are involved for the benefit of the boys. Unfortunately I have seen stepparents made unwelcome by parents because of mom and dad being at each others throats. I don't know what your situation is I hope that isn't what is going on. as for the benifits of scouting a well run boy led scout troop is a scary thing to behold to the outside world. we as adults can do all of the things the boys are expected to do fasted and much more efficient. True learning comes from experiencing setbacks. forgetting a pot to cook dinner, in striking out, dropping a pass ect.Thats life but when the boys are teaching younger scouts the ropes. helping them fix their mistakes and succeed ,there are real life lessons there. Have you ever seen a young man part of a tight group of friends get a promotion and go from one of the boys to a supervisor or lead person? Its not always a pretty site. A boy who learned to be a patrol leader at 13 or 14 can usually do it after all he already has. enough rambling you should be welcome in the troop maybe you need to try another all troops have slightly different takes on things. Kind of like wife's there is one that is "right " for everybody that doesn't make the others wrong! good luck Tony

my two cents tell parent who told you you will keep an eye out. then You know your boys keep an eye out. If it happens again then deal with it. it wasn't a big enough deal for the first parent to tell/call you that day or the next so its not that big a deal. If she did not find out until a month later again too much time has passed. my vote is watch. good luck with getting volunteers. keep up the good work YIS Tony

my two cents tell parent who told you you will keep an eye out. then You know your boys keep an eye out. If it happens again then deal with it. it wasn't a big enough deal for the first parent to tell/call you that day or the next so its not that big a deal. If she did not find out until a month later again too much time has passed. my vote is watch. good luck with getting volunteers. keep up the good work YIS Tony

I have an issue with the timing here. A Bear cub so a boy of 7 or 8. A month is an eternity at that age. I say you have lost the ability to address the situation effectively at that point. As someone else said boys are in many ways like puppies and like puppies if you want to correct behaviors you need to do it right then. I don't think you will accomplish much at this point. You can talk to the boy but if it happened again then the thing to do is address it right then and there. just my opinion tony