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Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
i saw those video clips of bush cutting wood and i thought to myself, gee, how easy is it to look like youre working hard, when 1. you can use it as publicity stunt and 2. most americans have never cut wood and wouldnt know the difference between working hard and looking like it if it came up and kicked them. i know this is off topic, but so many people are duped to believe whatever someone else wants them too. i sure know that it would be alot easier for me if i had cameras in my face when my dad and brother and i were out cutting wood for the winter...and im not even president. -
im a college soph. i dont think the draft is ever going to happen, for political reasons and for common sense (a volunteer army, run correctly, is as effective as a drafted one considering the technology we possess that wins our wars.) but i also think pulling kids out of college after their second year is a bad idea. i know from the experiences of a lot of my friends who have dropped out after the first year with the intention of coming back, who will never be back. besides, in todays world, a college diploma, though not as respected as a tour of duty, still gets you a job.
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Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
id like to get in on this and let my opinions out 1. "The proposed drilling is neither in Philmont, or at Philmont, it is outside of Philmont". -i say who cares where it happens. drilling is bad on the environment no matter where it occurs. 2. "Any drilling has to be done somewhere, and somebody will dislike that location". -no kidding 3. " SUVs are not the only thing that use petoleum based resources" -true, but they set a dangerous trend in that they are wasteful of those resources and people are beginning to see that waste as socially acceptable. thats not good. 4. "As our population and economy grow so does our need for energy and petroleum based fuels." -ah, but what of the potential of cheap, renewable fuel technology? must we remained locked into this obsession with fossil fuels? 5. "We are a free enterprise system of ecomomy." -yep. 6. "Where in the US would you approve drilling for new petroleum resources?" id go on an extremist limb and say...nowhere. 7. "What other industrial nation, that produces as much as the US, and with the quality of life equal to the US, uses less fossil fuels?" -how does our quality of life suffer when we lower our household temperatures 5 degrees or make similiar sacrifices to help save the environment? 8. " What is your specific source of statistics that says "most people in the middle of winter have their furnaces going full blast, all the lights in the house are on"?" -well, in missouri it gets terribly cold, and that generally causes people to turn up the thermostat...sometimes common sense is just as good as stats. -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
as noble as that sounds, calling ourselves the stewards of the earth and actually being the stewards of the earth is also a simplistic notion. but youre right. until we find a way to start holding ourselves and others accountable for the environment, things wont change. anyone have any suggestions outside of writing our senators? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
the 'oil and gas journal' estimated there to be about 5,500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas left in the entire world. the valle vidal is estimated to have from 28 billion to 57 billion cubic feet of natural gas reserves. sounds like a whole bunch, right? but in 2001 it was estimated, using that years consumption levels, that there was only 64.9 years of natural gas production left for the planet. of course there may be hidden reserves awaiting discovery, so round it off to a nice 70 years left. what is the point in destroying the environment in the valle vidal, not to mention the entire world, when so little gas is left?? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
excuse my mistake, sir. let me correct myself and say that each time i wrote the word "in" i should have wrote "next to". that being said, what difference does it make? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
i've lived in the country in northwest missouri for about 16 years. last year my neighbor sold his dairy farm to a developer who is now turning the land into a suburban neighborhood. the developer ran power lines along our fence for one of the houses and they are almost touching a line of walnut trees on our land which we are going to have to cut down before they become a hazard. so to paraphrase, well, me, any dramatic change is going to affect the immidiate areas...including philmont. besides, how many people have camped in the valle vidal over the years? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
it isn't political naivete that drives my thought process. president bush and vice president cheney both had stakes in the oil and energy industry. the bushs made millions in the texas oil boom during the 50s and 60s and cheney, of course, was head of halliburton, one of the world's leaders in oil production. it isn't naive to think that these men would tend to have their actions affected by the industries to which they owe their fortunes, is it? to me it is common sense. what does the president's energy plan call for in the next four years? besides drilling for gas in philmont and oil in alaska? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
fuzzy bear, i think you're right. but the problem is that we will never get a leader with the guts to take on the oil industry because the oil industry is too deep into the administration's pockets. until we have a leader who has nothing to do with corporate america, we arent gonna see a change. i still have hope that america is gonna wake up and say, "hey! how come all the fat cats with lotsa cash are callin all the shots and helpin the big guys when they should be taking care of the planet?" and thats what they need to do is take care of the planet instead of themselves. 'cause this is the only earth we've got. -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
yeah i learned about the technology of the hybrid in high school physics and from what i understood, it was very promising. i have a question, though about economics. if the country moves towards energy independence, how will our economy react? i think that by creating a new industry, job growth will increase and all that, but what kind of ties does our economy have with mid east oil companies? if we start producing our own energy, how will it affect the economy? -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
yet again, the voice of logic and reason are tossed aside in favor of the voice of apathy and anger. the debate here should remain on the topic of the gas drilling in new mexico, whether it is right or not and whether there is anything we can do to stop it. crawl down off your high horses and work together...maybe we can find an amicable solution and fix a problem instead of just fighting about it...i still say we oppose the drilling because of the devastating environmental impact. even if 650000 scouting feet have tread on philmont soil, i dont think they have caused as much damage as a giant oil company would; i'm sure el paso energy has never even thought about practicing low impact camping. -
Bush wants natural gas exploration next to Philmont
tall buffalo guard replied to acco40's topic in Issues & Politics
hey, would someone explain the reason for all these insults? personal attacks don't adress the problem and they make a serious discussion impossible. so lay off each other, will ya? if you disagree, at least do it modestly. anyway, i believe that diggin around in the ground for natural gas is a way to prolong our dependency on nonrenewables. i dont know much about natural gas (so please, backpacker? fat old guy? dont insult my lack of research), but it seems to me that it too is nonrenewable. why look into the ground when we should explore the potentials of remewable resourses such as bio fuels, wind farms, hydro-electricity and, yes, even solar power which, as tree huggin' as it may be, still beats tearing up the planets' natural wonders?