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Lets make it harder for our "local middle school principal." What if the patch was sewn on and said "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" ?

n“Little League Coach pitches Parma Nationals to area championship.†n“I had to take over. None of the boys could find the plate.â€

The Surgeon General of the Army - at a time when he was a General in the Army - explained why the Army incorrectly rejected a pack designed by a Union Army Surgeon during the Civil War. That pack transferred most of the load to the pelvis and thence to the legs. He explained that weight on the shoulders interfered with breathing and cited studies of how heavy loads on the shoulders led to injuries to the shoulders and spine - in adults, sometimes resulting in the soldier being "invalided out" of the Army. About a century after the Civil War, Kelty rediscover the lost secret and it has been improved upon with more comfortable belts over the last sixty years. And we no longer go barefoot or urinate just uphill from the well.

Rhode Island boy with a gun charm on a key chain suspended Joseph Lyssikatos said he was suspended for three days after the novelty pistol — which he won at a local arcade — fell out of his backpack during class at Alan Shawn Feinstein Middle School in Coventry on Thursday. His mother, Bonnie Bonanno, was outraged at the punishment, which included the seventh-grader being banned from a school trip at the end of the month No moving parts, you understand. Pot metal molding. A student at Sandusky, Ohio High School was suspended for 90 days and flunked, after school authorities searched him for drugs in September 1999, and found a broken pocketknife. He had used the knife to clean his golfing cleats. After bringing the knife from a Cub Scouts eating set to school to eat his lunch, a six-year-old boy was ordered to attend an alternative school for students with behavioral problems for nine weeks. (That McDonald's must be a real dangerous place.) A third-grader was expelled for a year because her grandmother sent a birthday cake, and a knife for cutting the cake, to school. The teacher used the knife to cut the cake, and then reported her to the authorities as having a dangerous weapon. The expulsion was overturned and led to a state law that gave districts the ability to, "on a case-by-case basis, modify the terms of the expulsion. A straight-A student who was ordered to attend "reform school" after a classmate dropped a pocket knife in his lap. A second grader in Baltimore, Maryland, was suspended in March 2013 for biting a Pop-Tart into the shape of a mountain, which school officials mistook for a gun. "Alexis Kyle, 13, faces a penalty for using her peer’s inhaler during gym class Tuesday at Schrade Middle School. Seventh-grader Inidyah Rush offered Alexis her inhaler after seeing Alexis having an asthma attack, according to FOX 4. Both girls face punishment for violating school rules that prohibit sharing a controlled substance, such as prescription drugs. " I can find no study showing that zero tolerance practices reduce unwanted behaviors. Can you help? There has been a reaction, including formal opposition by the American Bar Association. Advocacy group have formed: FairfaxZeroToleranceReform.org School board members are being called to account in elections: ALBANY — A high school student with area labor unions' backing is challenging former Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino for his seat on the fractious Buffalo school board, saying it desperately needs "some adult behavior." . . . He also would get rid of the zero-tolerance policies he said often unfairly lead to students' suspensions, which he said should instead be decided on a case-by-case basis. As suggested, we don't need zero-thinking, zero-judgment policies in Scouting - especially for youth.

"granola head" ? "hippie"? "women"? When you go by the Via Aurelia That runs from the City to Gaul, Remember the Luck of the Soldier Who rose to be master of all! He carried the sword and the buckler, He mounted his guard on the Wall, Till the Legions elected him Caesar, And he rose to be master of all!

You might want to point this out to that SM who refuses to use the Patrol Method, as the Handbook promises he will do: Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America (2016) Here we again see the risk of adults who make up their own version of Boy Scouting.

"We are not making these products 100% from scratch in America, but we are using our current resources to focus on delivering the most innovative, high quality products we can. "

2007 "PAONIA, Colo. " Chaco sandals will no longer be made in the small western Colorado town of Paonia, though the company headquarters will remain there. The company is in the process of moving the rest of its manufacturing operation to China. When the remaining line of Chacos still being assembled in Paonia moves overseas, sometime next summer, about 50 jobs in Paonia will be eliminated, though 10 or 12 of those jobs are expected to be absorbed into other departments within the company. The remainder of the employees will be offered severance packages, said General Manager Ed Wieland. Founded in Paonia in 1989 by owner Mark Paigen, Chaco remained a tiny company for about a decade before experiencing a growth spurt in 1998-99. Its sandals are popular with the outdoor crowd. The company has less than $25 million in sales. "We are growing very rapidly," Wieland said. "It's important to understand, with the exception of the Headwaters line " we were already producing in China for the past four years," Wieland said. Popular with river runners, Headwaters sandals can be worn in water and for hiking. In August, Chaco employees learned that one of the Headwaters' models would be manufactured in China. Two months later, the company announced it would move the remainder of its production to China as well. "Starting in 2009, 100 percent will be going to China," Wieland said. "It's been coming for a long time." China makes 95 percent of all footwear in the world, Wieland said. "They are the kings." The cost of making a pair of sandals in China is significantly lower than in Paonia, he explained. The defect rate is also lower in China than in Paonia, he said. In addition, the Paonia plant doesn't have the technical capability to produce models on the drawing board, Weiland said. The company hasn't been able to claim "made in Paonia" for a long time. "The majority of the components come from abroad," Wieland said. Foot beds come from New England, webbing is from France and China. "We couldn't even use the 'made in USA label,'" Wieland said. "They're assembled in Paonia." Chaco headquarters will remain in Paonia, and its distribution center will stay in Delta, Colo. together employing approximately 60 people in the areas of sales, product development, customer service, information technology, finance and marketing, Wieland said." 2012 "ROCKFORD, Mich., March 27, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Responding to the extraordinary emotional connection its consumers have with the brand, Chaco launches MyChacos, a one-of-a-kind "Made in the USA" custom sandalprogram. Over the past two decades, Chaco has developed a loyal and active community of fans affectionately called "Chaconians." In response to these supporters' desires for unique webbing and color options, Chaco has created a place for them to build and personalize their own pair of Chaco sandals. The new website,www.mychacos.com, offers deep customization with nine dimensions of color, material, and sole choices to create tens of millions of possibilities. ... The ReChaco team, Chaco's on-site warranty and repair group based in Rockford, Michigan, will build each pair of MyChacos sandals. Because the domestic value of labor and materials of each custom pair exceeds 89 percent, they will be labeled "Made in the USA." An integral part of the brand for over 10 years, ReChaco mends customer's well-worn sandals and in 2011 made their 25,000th repair under Wolverine Worldwide ownership. All MyChacos sandals can be re-webbed and resoled in the future, extending the life of the precious personalized sandals; and they are covered under Chaco's lifetime guarantee against material and workmanship defects." 2012 "I am one of the Chaco sales reps here in the Rockies. I have always been a kayaker and a rafter, so I know where you are coming form when you are looking for rugged durable product. It really scares me that all you have so much false information. Facts.... 1. Chaco moved production to China before Wolverine purchased the brand. 2. Wolverine is the parent company that owns Merrell, is the licensee of patagonia Footwear and a handful of other footwear brands. Wolverine is a good american company, and saved a small colorado footwear company that was having issues meeting demand, was for sale, and needed to be purchased to save the brand. 3. You can still send in your Chacos for repair, new outsoles or new webbing. They can even build you a pair of american made Chacos if you really want them. 4. The Price of Chaco's have not gone up in price at all since they were purchased. 5. There are less returns on the China made Chaco products than the US made product. Sorry guys, but they know how to make shoes in China and are more consistent in quality. 6. All shoes wear out.. and sometimes the wearer is harder on them than his "last" pair. 7. Look at your labels in your clothes, outdoor gear, car, shoes.. If you are using a name brand product, chances are it is made abroad. 8. Chaco is one of the title sponsors of Telluride Bluegrass, and FIBARK. They are putting money back into the outdoor/ white water world for us all to enjoy. I am open for questions/ Comments and Concerns. Ryan"

I like your "ors." Oh, I can image facts contrary to what the OP posted. As I've seen it both ways, I have no preconception that drives me to reject her story out-of-hand. I do acknowledge the danger of coming to a problem with a topless can of gasoline. Hopefully, if some higher authority is summoned, he/she/they will do their very best to discover the actual facts and to achieve an amicable solution. I have absolutely seen good come from conflict. Sometimes addition is by subtraction, like the SM we "subtracted" who was stealing from the district and supplying beer and cigarettes to Scouts at our Klondikes. (His walking around with a machete stuck in his boot was a minor problem in comparison. That he shot his left thumb off doing "fast draw" with a single-action revolver when running the BB gun range should have been a warning.) If someone is not performing I would rather find a job for the adult that is a better fit so long as she/he is within the range of the acceptable.

"That leaves us with a choice. We can thump our books and our chests and quote chapter and verse and call 'em evil wicked scouters. We can stomp our feet out onto da pitch and start hollerin' at da referee. Worse, we can snipe behind their backs like gossips and badmouth 'em and their troop and their program. That says a lot about us and about how much we value courtesy and sportsmanship and whatnot, but I'm not convinced it's helpful to anybody. " "Choice"? Or we can make a major commitment to teaching? Or we can try to convince the Scouters at National to kill council advancement mills? Or we can try to convince National to keep pushing towards the Patrol Method? I'm all for dumping the negativism ueber alles, but we need the "or" part Identifying a problem is not doing the whole job. Or there's #3.

Standard BSA tables of organization contain "Assist SM New-Scout Patrol" and "Asst. SM Venture Patrol." It is wise to worry about how adults will behave given the evidence we have, but it is not a given that adults will cross the line.

Well, I tried to edit to make it clearer that there were three choices for forumites who are asked for advice. My post disappeared after I hit "save." 1. Don't give advice since all you have to go on is hearsay. 2. Give advice based on hearsay knowing the advice is no better than the accuracy of what the OP posted. 3. Give advice based on facts you make up.

Three choices (at least): 1. Never give advice because the OP is always presenting hearsay. 2. Give advice on the basis of the OP's statements with the understanding that the advice is no better than the hearsay. 3. Make up your own facts and give advice based on the made-up facts.

The Michigan law makes hazing in school a crime only if it results in physical injury. serious impairment of a bodily function, or death, conduct that was already criminalized. The Michigan statute is political theater/ The Indiana law does make hazing a misdemeanor even when no injury results. It makes hazing a felony when the conduct was already a felony under Indiana law. The crime of Hazing is not restricted to schools.

Funny how we got along so many generations with judgment. Boys mostly carried "pocket knives" to school. But if some idiot pulled one out and threatened, there were consequences. So it was up to you to be reasonable. Now perfectly reasonable conduct is punished - like the Eagle's tiny folder in his survival kit locked in the glove compartment of his locked truck. The Winter weather where he was made it very reasonable to have a knife to help start a fire. But the reasonableness of his conduct was trumped by Zero Intelligence rules. In fact, reason was not involved. Expelled. I am told by friends in education that parents are less supportive of discipline. The federal government is less supportive of enforcing laws. Times are changing. But intolerant rules are still a poor way to teach personal responsibility.

Waste and not being concerned with cost are different issues. Sure government wastes. It's an aphorism. Any time someone spends OPM - "Other Peoples' Money" - there is a substantial risk of waste - public or private sector. I worked for a city, a county, a state, and the biggest corporation in the world. Waste everywhere. Also at all those places I saw the "spend you budget" phenomenon. Surplus may cause a cut for next year. Those aircraft that don't work are assigned to the missions set for the military by the C-in-C. Being unprepared worked so well in WWII and Korea. So we're trying that approach once more - the "hollow armed forces" of Bubba's regime. Or maybe the world is a safer place now. And I have personal knowledge about parts shortage as a fellow Scouter's son is one of those cannibalizing existing aircraft to keep the minority operational. Some of the needed part have not been made in ten years. Planning ahead. Some do check out charities before donating. One of them would be me. Not a special virtue. It is often an error to assume that only you possesses a given quality. One common pattern is a non-profit whose actual governing purpose is raising money to pay its employees, with service to the supposed beneficiaries of the non-profit coming in a distant second. Think Wounded Warrior Project, Cabncer Fund of America, Red Scam. or . . . . . $15.98 today for kids sizes. $24.99 for adults. Probably not made in U.S.A. - or anywhere in America.

n “Scouting offers what boys want: outdoor adventures, being with their friends….†B.S.A. website, 2016 n “they self-select and they are friends….†B.S.A., Scouting blog, 2015 n “Scouts should be encouraged to invite their friends to join the troop and become a member of their patrol.†B.S.A. website, 2016 n “ ‘You set up a structure—six to eight Scouts—and let them figure it out,’ he says. n ‘Boys are going to want to stick together if you can use their friendships to put together a team.’ †B.S.A., Scouting (May-June 2012)(quoting child psychologist Dr. Brett Laursen )

Pretty regularly. Almost 2/3 of USMC F-18s are grounded for lack of repair parts and repair man-hours They are cannibalizing aircraft to keep some working. We are short 500 fighter pilots for the fighter aircraft that the Air Force has.

Lawyern' ? (Sorry, Poor impulse control.) Ohio Revised Code 2903.31 Hazing. (A) As used in this section, "hazing" means doing any act or coercing another, including the victim, to do any act of initiation into any student or other organization that causes or creates a substantial risk of causing mental or physical harm to any person. (B) (1) No person shall recklessly participate in the hazing of another. (2) No administrator, employee, or faculty member of any primary, secondary, or post-secondary school or of any other educational institution, public or private, shall recklessly permit the hazing of any person. © Whoever violates this section is guilty of hazing, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. Effective Date: 03-03-1983

Beav, can I disagree? We can only operate on the facts given - hearsay to be sure, with the understanding (that perhaps should be explicit) that the advice is based on the facts presented. Those facts do not include AWOL for four years. (Any yes, anyone can see what their particular bete noire in the facts presented. That's a corollary to the Hammer/Nail Rule.) The issue is whether the Scout is qualified for Eagle. That ought to be the only issue. Determining the answer on that issue would require careful fact-gathering and careful consideration. If trying to follow the rules is "lawyerin," so be it. Understanding the rules is also essential if one is to be "obedient" You know, one of those values we profess to follow. I think we are better off with a society of law vs. a society that ignores the law. Which is not to say that I love "zero-tolerance" rules. Like you, I dislike such rules. Unlike you, I think they flow from an unwillingness to make the effort and take the risk of exercising judgment. Homo bureaucratus, a subspecies found even within Scouting, is especially fond of zero-judgment rules. So easy. "Sorry, but the rules provide . . . ." "Adversarial"? In this case, we are told that there are already sides. The question is whether the Scout's side has an opportunity to be meaningfully presented. What lesson do we teach about how disputes are to be resolved? With respect and and opportunity to be heard flowing both ways? Totalitarians are fond of arguing that only one side exists. "For the people!" That's not you, Beav. But it is a lot of "Social Service" agencies - and school administrators.. Camping Detour As for the detour into kids going camping outside the troop, don't get hung up on "jurisdiction." Being hung up is bad for beaver. Think of "business" -- as in the CO/troop has no business telling kids not to go camping outside of the unit program. And this was camping, not drugs. I would hope the parents, whose business it is, are exercising good judgment (There's that word again.) in letting the kids camp. I would hope for a couple of parents within screaming distance. (Sorry, Commando Team leaders. That's just how I think after two years on a SAR team. ) Six 16-year-olds vs six 11-year-olds? Judgment. SM wants to pitch them out for camping privately? Bad move in my opinion. LIke the two SMs in Orange County in the 1950s who wanted to ban Scouts from privately trick 'r treating for UNICEF, you may not like the ultimate result. (They were decommissioned.) It's voluntary both ways. Convince is better that using that hammer. Maybe the patrols should be camping more given that use of the Patrol method is unambiguously required for all troops.

All fixed.

The major producer of BSA-branded garments before production went overseas had already moved production to Puerto Rico to cut costs - and still went under. So they were not a choice. Most US companies have moved most of their production overseas. Some fabric used to make BSA-branded garments is made in the USA of recycled PETE beverage bottles by Unifi Some of those garments are made in the USA by SustainU. (WBGV still thinks it is in the USA. ) Some are made in Bangladesh Some are made in Vietnam.

Sure, Stosh, but what about Boy Scout uniforms?

Next thing will be Mom and Dad needing a Tour and Activity Plan to take their two Scout sons on a camping vacation.

If it's not a Scout activity, Scouts have no jurisdiction.