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And when the SE is doing the yelling and screaming? I.e., in the real world. ? I committed the ultimate sin of contacting the Council Commissioner to ask that RT Commissioners announce the need for staff for seven weeks of Scoutmaster training at Summer Camp - training promised for years and never delivered - training I was asked to organize one month before the first week of camp. He seemed perplexed about what Commissioners would have to do with training, if willing to "spread the word.," The SE was reportedly furious, and I was told by the Council Training Chairman NEVER to contact any Council official or employee directly again on anything having to do with training. How that would work, given that cooperation with the Summer Camp staff was pretty much essential for seven weeks, was not part of the monologue. The Camp Director and Program Director, with whom I communicate directly (among others) several times a day for seven weeks, seemed to have been left out of the loop on the subject of shunning. They seemed very pleased to see the training taking place for a change, and told me so.. I, on the other paw, have not been asked by council for anything but money since, and our districts were deconstructed three years ago.

About the issue that started my quest, it's clear now. Reason prevailed. not that it changed our practice. About beer, clear as mud.

“It’s about giving people the resources and support they need so that everyone can be on equal footing, and then compete on equal footing. Equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place,” she [Harris] said as the video ended. So may we distinguish between equality of opportunity and guaranteed equality of outcomes - e.g. "Eagle for all"?

The policy for decades is that questions should go to council. The practiced pretty generally for decades is that if council doesn't have a clue, tough. COVID is not a general absolution. EXAMPLE: BSA once had a policy that expressly said that drugs, including alcohol were not allowed on Scout property or at Scout activities: "It is the policy of the Boy Scouts of America that the use of alcoholic beverages and controlled substances is not permitted at encampments or activities on property owned and/or operated by the Boy Scouts of America, or at any activity involving participation of youth members." When the question of Scouts possessing personal prescription drugs at camp came up, say drugs to be taken within seconds of the onset of a medical crisis, I was told by a council "professional" that all prescription drugs in that council's camp had to be kept locked up inside that camp's locked medical lodge, over a mile from our camp. Good luck with that. The BSA policy on drugs was cited, so, on return from camp, I tried to look for that policy and found it had been edited out of G2SS and not replaced elsewhere. Instead, remaining rules adopt the non-existent rule by reference: "Controlled substances, ... I will not possess, distribute, transport, consume, or use any of the following items prohibited by law or in violation of any Scouting rules, regulations, and policies: Alcoholic beverages or controlled substances, including marijuana.... [emphasis added]. But the rule, regulation, and policy statement to which the Code of Conduct once referred, is no longer in existence, so one has no guidance in fact, only by speculation. My council was skeptical, then flabbergasted when they looked for the former policy and found it gone, and it was suggested that I "call National." and share what I discovered. Surely, they thought, BSA still intended to ban drugs in some sense. This was a 'clerical error." In the meanwhile, they republished the former BSA policy as a council policy. It was their opinion that, under what was then council policy, live-saving drugs had to be kept somewhere where they could do some good. No one at National would take my calls, so I wrote. I received no answer to my letter, or the two following letters, each polite and straightforward. I was busy truing to organize seven week's of Scoutmaster Training at Summer Camp on one month's notice, so I gave up trying to have BSA communicate. We wrote the other council off as a potential summer camp site. I assumed thereafter, and to this date, with all attendant risks, that the revoked policy - not published by BSA for years now, but still repeated by councils - was still in effect but did not apply to our severely allergic Scout's Epi pens or similar cases. "Sound leadership."

Great news! See, things can improve with the right leadership. 👍

No, I would fire every single Scouter, employee or volunteers who took it upon themselves to cheat by ignoring the Guide to Advancement, Addition by subtraction. They might be allowed to reapply under appropriate conditions were recidivism seems unlikely. Tell me more about what you think HR requires. It was one of my areas of practice as a counselor and trial counsel for AT&T in all levels of state and federal federal court. So far as I can tell from results in cases, ignoring company rules is always a valid basis for adverse employment decisions, unless the rules themselves violate some law, such as by requiring volunteers not to report instances of sex abuse to public authorities. There, is not, I believe, a civil right to cheat and lie - another example of the general legality of being discriminating.

Where does one find published telephone numbers for BSA National managers? My recent experience, say over the last thirty years, is that when, I obtained such a number, largely through relationships with Scouters at National, the most common response I received to the controversial "hello" and "My name is X and I am the Y in my district" was "How did you get this number." I was calling with questions that came up at roundtables and Key Three meetings that Council said it could not answer. We felt like having The Word so that we could follow BSA policy would be nice. Being abusive when you are seeking help is not only rude but also stupid. Oh, there was a couple of years when the head of training insisted that his staff answer calls from volunteers in the field - say 2014-2015, but he retired, Good guy. The old policy promptly returned. The BSA safety guy used to come here, which I found educational, but it's fair to say he was given a hard time. He has not been around, I think, since the squirt gun rule was adopted.

"The Boy Scouts of America may revoke or decline to renew council charters for failure to comply with the Bylaws, Rules and Regulations, or policies of the Boy Scouts of America, or in any instance where it deems such action advisable in the interests of Scouting." https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/mission/pdf/523-027_WEB.pdf https://scoutingevent.com/attachment/BSA509/document_15474979790_2028.pdf No local council ... shall have authority to increase or diminish requirements or standards established by the Corporation [BSA]." Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America, Article VII, Section 5, Clause 4. No power. What a hoot.

So I understood. Hence the "UPVOTE." Again, " sincere thanks."

Your testimony is contrary to my experience and the experience of others. I believe it is contrary to reality, but that is just the experience of others than yourself. Whatever influence Tico had, he could not get Spanish-speakers to represent Scouting to parent meetings in the LA barrio. I have explained above how BSA COULD stop summer camp merit badge mills but elects not to do so. Oh, that might offend the wrong-doers. How tragic. No power. Ha! The Associated Press - Oct 30, 2000 Updated Jul 13, 2017 "SANTA BARBARA -- A Boy Scout executive was stripped of his Eagle Scout status and fired by the Boy Scouts of America National Council 10 days after he publicly admitted he was a homosexual, his attorney said. Len Lanzi, Boy Scouts Los Padres Council executive director, worked for the scouting organization 14 years before he was terminated by mail Thursday." "But they didn’t fire him because he’s gay. They fired him because national had decommissioned him!” Local Boy Scout Council, Board Member Karl Eberhard “We could contradict the national Boy Scout policy, and possibly risk the whole council being decommissioned, or we can go along with firing him." Id. BSA instructing a council that a volunteer is not allowed to participate in Scouting in that council:https://boyscoutssexualabuse.com/wp-content/uploads/iv_files/bsa_rodney-f-stark.pdf

So no one "starts" "equal, ' as you say, and, thus "equity, "a KEY component of critical race theory" is "impossible,. as you say. That being agreed, your "critical race theory' is an illusion - a slogan divorced from reality - an excuse for throwing responsibility for the inevitably unequal outcomes, on someone(s) other than the individuals themselves. If you speak for BSA, we owe you sincere thanks. You have explained the evil we must utterly crush. "On my honor, I will do my best ....." "A Scout is ...." "Discrimination," by the way, is largely legal and ethical. It is through discrimination that we do not voluntarily contribute to the funds to pay "leaders" who produce bad results for the organization, as baseball teams discriminate against "every day" players who cannot hit a breaking ball.

I merely wanted my responses to be distinct from your statements. In the spirit of Scouting, your apology is accepted, though your capacity to get me "upset' is so nearly zero as to be immaterial. i went through Nazis threatening my wife for my representation of "Mud People'" in court. THAT was upsetting. I have spoken to dozens of "national" volunteers and not a one imagined that volunteers have actual power over, or even much influence on, BSA decisions. This is one key reason Tico resigned as National Commissioner. Further, your admission that BSA will not enforce its rules against dishonest behaviors - and the fact that it indeed upholds the dishonestly - speaks volumes about BSA responsibility. for that dishonesty. And here we are. It happens in discussions that something other than the "official" opinion may be held by some - even most - participants despite the repetition of the official position.

EQUAL OPPORTUNITY VS GUARANTEED EQUAL OUTCOME (EVERY YOUTH AN EAGLE).

CHANGE IS INEVITABLE, BUT NOT ALL CHANGE IS IMPROVEMENT. ASK POLAND. CHANGE THAT AMOUNTS TO LESSENING PRODUCT/SERVICE QUALITY SELDOM LEADS TO SUCCESS. HOW WAS GM SAVED (AT LEAST FOR NOW)? QUALITY, QUALITY, QUALITY, AND THE BIG SHOTS WHO SAID NOTHING COULD BE DONE TO END THE ROT? GONE. IMMEDIATELY. THE BSA SOLELY DETERMINES THE REQUIREMENTS AND KNOWINGLY ALLOWS THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE DISREGARDED. SOME COUNCIL PROFESSIONAL ARE MORE RIGOROUS, AS YOU SUGGEST. BSA IS NOT. A LARGE MINORITY OF COUNCIL CAMPS STATE ON THEIR WEBSITES THAT "CAMP X IS NOT A MERIT BADGE MILL." WHY IS THAT NECESSARY? WHY IS THERE EVEN AN ISSUE? IF EVERY OTHER BUILDING IN A TOWN HAD A SIGN, "NOT A HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION," WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TOWN.? THE CAMPS THAT WARN AWAY THOSE EXPECTING A MERIT BADGE MILL ARE YOUR "MORE RIGOROUS." BUT THEY ARE, AGAIN, A MINORITY LAST TIME I COUNTED (2016). THIS SCANDAL IS AN "OPEN SECRET." IF VOLUNTEERS ARE NOT INCLINED TO FOLLOW THE RULES REGARDING REQUIREMENTS, THEY ARE IGNORED OR REMOVED. THIS HAS HAPPENED TO THREE OF OUR COUNCIL ADVANCEMENT CHAIRS OUT OF THE LAST SEVEN. THE OTHERS WENT ALONG, SOME GRINDING THEIR TEETH. EAGLES ARE UP 600-700% ACCORDING TO BSA. BECAUSE THE YOUTH ARE THAT MUCH BETTER? ADVANCEMENT BAUBLES ARE THE PARTY FAVORS THAT HELP DRIVE ATTENDANCE. CAMP ATTENDANCE ($$$) IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRUSTWORTHY. GUIDE TO ADVANCEMENT RULE 7.0.4.7 IS A MONUMENT TO A PROBLEM EASILY SORTED BY BSA AS IT DETERMINES WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO BE A COUNCIL EXECUTIVE. "ANYONE CAUGHT RUNNING A MERIT BADGE MILL IS HISTORY, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE FIRST EXAMPLES TO MAKE." BSA COULD ALSO ENFORCE THE RULE THAT NO MB MAY BE OFFERED UNLESS AN ACTUAL REGISTERED MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR- 18 OR OLDER BY RULE - HAS BEEN RECRUITED FOR EVERY WEEK THAT MERIT BADGE IS OFFERED. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE GONE TO SUMMER CAMP FIFTY AND MORE SUMMERS KNOW THAT ACTUAL REGISTERED MERIT BADGE COUNSELORS ARE RARE COMPARED TO YOUTH STAFF WHO ACTUALLY "TEACH THE SESSIONS" AND DECIDE WHO GETS (NOT EARNS) THE BADGES. BUT NOW WE "VISIT" RATHER THAN INSPECT AND THE "A" FLAG IS OFTEN MEANINGLESS. I WAS AT CAMP ALL SEVEN WEEKS IN 2017, RUNNING SCOUTMASTER TRAINING AND THERE WAS NEVER MORE THAN ONE - 1 - ACTUAL MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR ON THE PROPERTY FOR ALL FIVE DAYS. SOME DAYS THERE WERE TWO. ONCE THERE WERE THREE. NEVERTHELESS, OVER NINETY MERIT BADGES WERE "OFFERED." PLEASE. NONSENSE. SCOUTERS IN WILKES BARRE WHO OBJECTED OVER CAMPING TRUST FUND MONEY BEING DIVERTED TO MEET PAYROLL CONTRARY TO THE TERMS OF THE TRUST, INCLUDING A FIFTY-YEAR VOLUNTEER, EAGLE SCOUT AND CHAIRMAN OF THE CAMPING COMMITTEE, WERE BANNED FROM SCOUTING AND NATIONAL BACKED THE LOCAL CRIMINALS. HE LEFT SCOUTING. WANT MORE EXAMPLES? I WAS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL EXECUTIVE BOARD. IN MY THIRD YEAR, WITH MY DISTRICT LEADING THE COUNCIL IN EVERY METRIC,MOST DEFINITELY INCLUDING FOS, I HAD THE TEMERITY TO SUGGEST AT THE ANNUAL BUDGET MEETING THAT WE BUDGET A "NOMINAL AMOUNT" TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR SITES WERE DISHED OUT AFTER THIRTY YEARS OF USE AND HAD STANDING WATER WHEN IT RAINED. THINK: TENTS - STANDING WATER. AND THIS IS OHIO, NOT ARIZONA. I OPINED THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE A BASIS TO SAY WE HAD STARTED ON SOMETHING PROMISED ANNUALLY FOR SEVENTEEN YEARS. THE "COUNCIL PRESIDENT" THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA AND CALLED FOR A MOTION BUDGETING A PIDDLING $2000 OF CAPITAL FUNDS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE,. (WE HAD AMPLE CAPITAL MONEY BUT, IT DEVELOPS WERE RUNNING IN THE RED ON OPERATING EXPENSES, AND CAPITAL MONEY WAS BEING RAIDED - STILL RUNNING NINE MONTHS IN DEFAULT ON BILLS ON AVERAGE - NOT ALLOWED, BUT THERE IT IS. I SIGNED THE LETTER WARNING TELEPHONE SERVICE WOULD BE CUT IN TEN DAYS IF "PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS" WERE NOT MADE. ELECTRIC AND GAS WERE IN THE SAME SHAPE.) THE MOTION WAS MADE AND SECONDED BY MANY. IT PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, HE AND I FOUND OURSELVES NO LONGER NEEDED IN ANY CAPACITY ABOVE THE UNIT LEVEL, IN MY CASE FOR THE NEXT FOURTEEN YEARS, DESPITE THE SE's REMOVAL IN ONLY SIX YEARS WHEN THE AUDITORS ARRIVED (THOU SHALT NOT OPERATE IN THE RED AND THE MEMBERSHIP NUMBERS WERE WAY OFF. [LOTS OF TROOPS WITH EXACTLY THREE IMAGINARY ADULTS AND FIVE IMAGINARY SCOUTS.]) (I SAT ON AN EAGLE BOARD FOR A SCOUT WHOSE TROOP HAD NOT MET IN FOUR YEARS AND WAS, FINALLY, OUT OF CHARTER. YES, "HOW?") I WAS ONLY CONTACTED DURING THAT PERIOD TO CONTINUE MY GENEROUS FOS CONTRIBUTIONS. THROUGH VOLUNTEERS, I HELPED WITH DISTRICT TRAINING WITH MY NAME OMITTED FROM THE PHONY REPORTS THAT LIST STAFF AS "PARTICIPANTS" TO PAD THE TRAINING NUMBERS. THEN, HAPPILY, THE SECOND SUCCEEDING SE CALLED ME PERSONALLY TO ASK FOR MONEY, HE ASKED, IN PASSING, WHY I WAS NO LONGER ACTIVE OUTSIDE MY TROOP, GIVEN MY PRIOR SERVICE, DAM AND SB, AND ALL THAT. THAT CONVERSATION LED TO MY BEING LET BACK IN, UNTIL THE SM OF OUR TROOP, ALERTED BY A PATROL LEADER, 7.0.4.7'D A PIONEERING MB FOR A SCOUT WHO LITERALLY COULD NOT TIE A SQUARE KNOT AND RESPONDED "WHAT PROJECT" WHEN THE SM QUERIED HIM ON A TIP FROM HIS PL. HE HAD SHOWED UP WITH A SIGNED BLUE CARD AFTER ONLY FOUR DAYS AT CAMP. TURNED OUT THE THE OLDEST "SCOUT CRAFT" STAFFER WAS SIXTEEN. THE PIONEERING "COUNSELOR" WAS FIFTEEN. AS I HAD ASKED ABOUT MERIT BADGE COUNSELORS WHEN SHOWING UP TO HELP IN THE "SCOUT CRAFT" AREA, IT WAS ASSUMED I HAD 'RATTED" ON THE COUNSEL ("RATTED" WAS THE WORD FOR MY ASSUMED TELLING MY SM THE TRUTH.), AND I WAS BACK ON THE BLACK LIST. WHEN THAT SE TRANSFERRED, AND THEN WAS FIRED FOR FAKING MEMBERSHIP ( BEFORE "TALKING" TO BSA AND SOMEHOW BECOMING THE SE OF A VERY LARGE COUNCIL), I WAS STILL REGARDED AS "RADIOACTIVE" PER PROFESSIONALS WHO WOULD STILL TALK TO ME. SO I SOLDIER ON WHERE I AM ALLOWED. "SUCCESSFUL"? BSA LEADERSHIP IS "SUCCESSFUL" BY WHAT MEASURABLE STANDARD? LET'S PRETEND THEY ARE ACTUALLY ACCOUNTABLE" - HAD TO WRITE THE TICKET WE SAY THAT WE REQUIRE OF WOOD BADGE "PARTICIPANTS." I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A "TICKET" FOR THOSE BIG SHOTS AT NATIONAL WHO HAD A BIG PUSH ON FOR LATINO SCOUTS BUT SENT ONLY ENGLISH-SPEAKERS TO MEET WITH THE ADUTS IN THE BARRIO. I KNOW WHAT TICO THOUGHT OF THAT, BEFORE HE QUIT IN FRUSTRATION. HE HAD BEEN A MANAGING PARTNER IN A BIG LAW FIRM, AND WAS STUNNED BY THE INEPTITUDE. AS A VOLUNTEER, HE WAS ANOTHER OF THE "MERE" CLASS TO MANY "PROFESSIONALS." WHILE YOUR AT IT COMMENT ON THE "SOUNDNESS" OF HAVING NO EMERGENCY PLAN FOR VIOLENT WEATHER AT THE 1985 JAMBO IN TIDEWATER VIRGINIA IN AUGUST. NO CHANCE OF VIOLENT WEATHER THERE. 0___0 OR DISH-WASHING METHODS THAT VIOLATED STATE HEALTH LAWS IN ALL FIFTY STATES, AND THAT STAYED IN PLACE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS AFTER THE VIRGINA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TOLD BSA, IN MY PRESENCE, TO CHANGE ITS TWO-TUB METHOD TO WASH, RINSE, STERILIZE OR GET SHUT DOWN. THIS WAS A NEEDLESS SCANDAL AS THE "PROFESSIONALS" HAD BEEN WARNED BY A MERE WITH A PHD IN MICROBIOLOGY AND A SECOND PHD IN PUBLIC HEALTH, LATER A DEPARTMENT HEAD AT WHO, BUT HE WAS A MERE, SO, HE WAS IGNORED, UNTIL THE FORT HOSPITAL FILLED WITH DYSENTERY CASES, AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DESCENDED IN NO MOOD TO BE TOLD THEY HAD NO AUTHORITY ("YOU CAN'T TELL US HOW TO WASH DISHED."). SOME NAVY DOCTORS (WOOL DRESS UNIFORMS IN THAT STEAM BATH!) OTHER MERES, CONVINCED THOSE IN CHANGE THAT THE EVENT PERMIT COULD BE PULLED VERY QUICKLY; THIRD TUBS WERE DISTRIBUTED (WITH NO INSTRUCTION); AND THE JAMBO LURCHED ON. "SOUND" ? OR COERCING MILITARY PERSONNEL TO BRUSH-HOG FIELDS OF POISON SUMAC FOR TENT CAMP SITES. OH, THAT WORKED WELL. 0___0 AND THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION WAS NOT ADJUSTED FOR THREE DAYS, LEADING TO WILD NIGHTS AT THE COMMISSARY IN OUR SUBCAMP WITH 800 EXTRA MOUTHS TO FEED. GOOD THING THE TRUCK OF WATERMELONS FOR NATIONAL STAFF ENDED UP AT OUR "DOOR" AT 3AM, WITH THE DRIVER JUST BEGGING FOR SOMEONE, ANYONE, TO TAKE DELIVERY. WE TRADING WATERMELON FOR OTHER FOOD TO FEED THE KIDS. BIG INVESTIGATION WAS GRIST FOR THE LAUGH MACHINE. STAFF LOST THEIR WATERMELON; KIDS GOT FED., THANKS TO THE MERES. SOME OF THE FINEST PEOPLE AND SCOUTERS I HAVE KNOWN WERE SCOUTING EMPLOYEES, EVEN A DEPARTMENT HEAD AT NATIONAL. SOME HAD MORE HORROR STORIES THAN I HAD EVER IMAGINED, SOME OF WHICH I HEARD ONLY AFTER THEY RETIRED OR QUIT. I NEVER ASKED, AS SUCH. THE RECOLLECTIONS JUST CAME OUT IN CONVERSATIONS. "YOU WERE AT A.P. HILL IN '85?" EVER HEAR ABOUT "PROFESSIONALS" SITING A JAMBO IN THE BOTTOM OF A BOWL WITH NO DRAINAGE, EVEN WHEN PARK EMPLOYEES TOLD THEM IT WAS A BAD IDEA? IN PA. IN SUMMER. ASK ABOUT MORE-RAIN. "SOUND." HA!

Yes. I found this thread searching for information on BSA policy towards Deists." Someone else might find it.

1. "Charter and Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America June 2019 © Boy Scouts of America ... Section 3. That the purpose of this corporation shall be to promote, through organization, and cooperation with other agencies, the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in Scoutcraft, and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred virtues, using the methods which are now in common use by Boy Scouts [1915 language readopted in 2019]." So was it "sound" for BSA to pursue increasingly different purposes? 2. BSA fought for years and won the right, good or bad, to assert its view of "Timeless Values] by excluding gay persons, then relatively quickly abandoned that position for stated reasons that applied equally when they were fighting admission of gays. Was that "sound."? 3. BSA is driven almost solely by raising money to meet payroll - 97% of the expenditures in my council, making corporate donors more important than almost any number of Scout parents. Yes an opinion, based on observation, experience, documents, and admissions by "professionals." My council has turned down $millions because it would have been restricted to supporting program, such as by improving and maintaining camps. The council laid off it's VERY successful capital program professional because the $millions she raised could not be used for payroll. Is it "sound" not to make program - product - of highest priority? 4. BSA consciously allows awards to be given on a massive scale regardless of whether they have been earned or not. What message does this behavior send to youth? Is it '"sound" not to be "trustworthy"? 5. BSA "professionals" have repeatedly falsified membership numbers, leading to criminal investigations and convictions ("FBI called in as 'ghost' scouts boost numbers - and funds.") My councils first Scout Exectutive was merely fired for doing tthat, as was the Scout Executive I inherited when I rejoined in 1981. Then there is "In School Scouting, which one of our Scout Executives candidly called a "Scam." "Sound"? 6. BSA says volunteers run Scouting. That statement is disingenuous at best. "Sound" ? 7. The BSA position on "Reverent" is claimed to be very important, yet, in practice, BSA acts inconsistently. Some theists are excluded because they worship the wrong God or gods. It is said that one must believe in God - not "a" higher authority but "the" higher authority, and are to be excluded if you do not so believe; yet, some atheists, mainly Buddhists, but also non-theist Unitarians, have been allowed in BSA, the Buddhist continuously for generations, and their religious awards are recognized by BSA. Other atheists, such as Humanists, are excluded. On October 21, 2003, Greg Shields, a national spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America, statement to Fox News, said: "The Boy Scouts are not a religious organization. We cannot be described as a religious organization or a religion." Yes, that was wildly inconsistent with BSA's position in court papers in prior law suits. E.g.: "Although Boy Scouts of America is not a religious sect, it is religious, and, while the local council is not a house of worship like a church or a synagogue, it is a religious organization." E. g.: "Bill, I don't think you or the Boy Scouts have anything to apologize for. The Boy Scouts are proud to be an organization of people who believe in God." ( George Davidson, lead counsel of record, Boy Scouts of America v. Dale.) Is it "sound" to "double-talk" an "important" issue? 8. YPT The first version of on-line training commanded that reports of "incidents" be made solely to your Scout Executive. I, and I am sure many others, pointed out that the law was otherwise, and the commandment changed. But how could any "sound" leader require such a indefensible practice in the first instance? These have been tough times for most volunteer organizations. That makes sound leadership critical.

Hard for some Christians to grasp. but Buddhists are literally atheists - persons who do not believe in a creator deity of any kind . They have been members of the BSA since at least 1926, and their religious awards are recognized by BSA.

You are ignoring the fundamental purpose of BSA - meeting payroll.

I find it hard to believe that boys, at least, no longer like to play games. BSA abandoned Scouting the game decades ago.

Writing about behaviors and motivation of the living is rarely "history."

Dark v-shaped flying things are hovering over Scouting. With all the changes, what is Scouting's political "base"?

More?

Lots of stuff out there to learn. I was a Scout starting in 1953. A "Neighborhood Patrol" camped with us a couple of times so they could experience patrol competition. Turns out "Neighborhood patrols" were chartered into 1969 at least: No sponsor No Committee "Scoutmaster is selected by three fathers from the community." As few as two boys "NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL: a small neighborhood group of from 2 to 8 Scouts may be organized as a 'Neighborhood Patrol." A Neighborhood Patrol requires no sponsorship. Three fathers in the community must approve the Scoutmaster. Meetings are held in homes or other suitable places as often as the membership desires to meet." Boy's Life, June, 1938, at p. 27. Gettysburg Times June 12, 1940: 13. Enlist and train a boy as a Tenderfoot for his own or any other Troop, Tribe, or Neighborhood Patrol, or as a Lone Scout; or enlist and train a boy as a Bobcat in a Cub Pack, or as a Lone Cub. OR If such enlistment is impossible because of Local conditions, train another Scout in at least three Second Class requirements involving Scout Skills." First Class Requirement September 1944 until June 1948 SEE "WANTS TO START SOMETHING." Be sure to let me know if you want more examples. More information. http://www.troop162nh.org/about/history https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20150601/NEWS/150609905 https://chestofbooks.com/outdoors/scouts/Rural-Boys/The-Neighborhood-Patrol-Budget-Plan.html https://goreadingberks.com/history-of-holy-guardian-angels-boy-scouts-of-america-troop-161/ https://prezi.com/dieoyh11ywrh/boy-scout-troop-700/ See Dr. Briscoe's fouth paragraph: https://oa-bsa.org/history/arrowmans-profile-desegregation-oa

With the adoption of the Patrol Method, troops were way to support patrol programming. Patrols could be individually chartered onto the 1960s. With the demise of Scouting, that has changed.