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Stosh, the concentrations camps later called "Gulags" held millions in the 1920s, well before WWII. Millions of Ukrainians were murdered by systematic starvation in 1932-1933. The Great Purge of the military that put the majority of the field-level command and the upper Party leadership against the wall was in 1937-38 - over a million victims. Stalin became the maximum leader after Lenin died by killing the other high-level leaders. Uncle Joe is a myth of the left. We are past that, along with the "innocence" of the Rosenbergs. Stalin was always a monster. The Soviet Union "won" WWII for many reasons, one being that Stalin he was marginally less idiotic than Hitler, who took less and less expert advice as the war went (badly) on. Germany could only win a short war, and Hitler's insistence on three "first priority" axis of attack, combined with relatively bad weather, made that impossible. 40% of Soviet tank strength in December, 1941 was from the UK. Hitler's racial theories meant that millions of Ukrainians were rejected as additions to the army and made enemies instead. The U.S. supplied the S.U. with, among other things, tens of thousands of trucks far superior to anything built in the S.U.. millions of boots, over 8000 locomotives, and thousands of miles of rails. N. Khrushchev, Military Commissar of the Soviet Union The point I was trying to make is that people will follow a person, call him a "leader" or not, even though he is not a servant in any sense. This needs to be taken into account.

Please, Stosh, read what I posted. We agree on the goal. We disagree on historic reality. People will actually follow non-servant leaders. "You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time. When we get "perfect" people, that will stop. Until then . . . .

Leaders do not always serve and the followers often do not seem to care. Leaders should serve. We speak of "public servants." But Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Fidel were followed, willy nilly, as were Caesar, Timur, Genghis, Alexander, Jeff Fort, Jim Jones, Francisco Solano Lopez, and Napoleon - to the death in many cases. In the real world, wonderful aspirations are not automatically met.

If you are truly interested in opportunities to lead, the leader is whoever leads. That is why Bill Hillcourt advocated "electing "leaders as the boys ignore titles in favor of whomever they want to follow. Titles are not controlling. If your actual interest is your son having a POR so he can "advance," I understand your concern. Just know that having the title against the will of the "led" is not much fun for the title-holder.

With utmost respect. .. The "boy led concept", like the boy led troop," is not a method that has ever been part of Boy Scouting. Boy leadership in the troop and the patrol is an aspect of the Patrol Method that Bill Hillcourt had to fight to get accepted, pretty much winning by 1930. When some adult decides he wants the program to be something other than what is set out in the literature, that adult usually sincerely believes he knows better than BSA - he's right and BSA is wrong . The SM in my home town who makes absolutely all the decisions, sits as a voting member of the Troop Committee, and mandates total retesting at every Board of Review ("Who has the ropes?") thinks he's right. The SM I work with now who thinks "there is no time for separate patrol meetings" (much less outings) and effectively appoints all the troop-level positions other than SPL thinks he's right. The SM just removed in a neighboring council who just would not acknowledge that the troop committee had any authority over him and wanted to handle finances totally apart from the committee thinks he was right. He told me so. You sincerely believe your right. We absolutely disagree, Where BSA gives me wiggle room or where the rules are unclear, which is often the case because there are few masters of English prose at National Council, I argue for the interpretation that seems best - yes, best to me, but after consideration of thoughts of others whom I respect, like you, Stosh. I will not violate a clear BSA rule. If I can't go along with such a rule and BSA won't excuse me from compliance, I'll quit. That's what I view as honorable and that's what BP said should happen in so many words. There are other good works that need doing if it were to come to that. Otherwise, I am modeling by my behavior a belief that the Scout Oath and Scout Law are so much cant - do as I say not as I do. As an imperfect being, it's hard enough to set a good example without setting out to be that sort of example.

Nothing new here. Adults have "known better" than the rules for decades. We simply do not agree.

The troop - the PLC in consultation with the SM, sets requirements to hold the offices of SPL and PL. The SPL is elected by the Scouts of the troop and appoints all other troop-level officers in consultation with the SM. A patrol elects its leader . The Patrol Leader appoints each other member of his patrol to a job. A patrol is a team with everyone in a position and a mini exercise in democracy. A Patrol Leader is a leadership position, not an advancement requirement to tick off. That is called "Boy Scouting" in a B.S.A. unit. It is what the Scouts are promised in the literature that the boys read and on the BSA website if they go there. "nless the patrol method is in operation, you don’t really have a Boy Scout troop.†B.S.A. website, 12/07/16. Or you can decide you know better and ignore the rules and institute "Joe's Scouting" or "Mr. Bill's Scouting." Maybe you'll be right. B.S.A. has been known to blunder, although they have been consistent about the above for over seventy years. Most often, you'll be wrong. In all cases the Scout will notice that you are ignoring B.S.A.'s rules and might think about "Trustworthy" or "Obedient." And no, they can't "make you."

While I have relatives in THAT part of KY, no double entendre intended. We just had a 1960's Crow Patrol flag and it seemed to fit.

Go for it! QM, Old Crow Patrol, T22.

Seems like it's an Indian Guides pin. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-YMCA-INDIAN-GUIDES-LAPEL-PIN-ARROWHEAD-DESIGN-/322321696031?hash=item4b0bdec51f:g:h3sAAOSw0HVWAWMu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-YMCA-Arrowhead-Indian-Guides-Lapel-Pin-Enamel-Red-Triangle-Free-S-H-/132004758147?hash=item1ebc18c283:g:SV4AAOSwHMJYK8HH https://www.etsy.com/listing/470886066/ymca-guide-club-official-membership-pin?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=ymca%20indian%20guides&ref=sr_gallery_11 A triangle was the YMCA symbol until 1967 and the arrowhead for its Indian Guides program

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1000s of openings. Do it. 60-70 hrs/wk - or more Almost all work with adults Main job raising money to pay your salary. 10-12 yrs until chance of promotion to middle management Great pension plan when you get there But at least the pay is low

My oldest council can't find people to take the jobs they have open. The few who sign on leave quickly. Fewer paid staff who are paid more might work better.

The first hand-held calculator showed eight red LED digits and cost 200 1971 $$. Now, far superior calculators can be had for under 10 2016 $$. So there is hope. Under $1,100 on Cyber Monday. $595 rebuilt and recertified today.

The LA Times said "Texas Judge blocks overtime." Other media outlets noted it was a federal judge sitting in Texas who enjoined the executive order as probably unlawful pending final judgment in the case. "[T]he judge said the increase to the 40th percentile of all weekly earnings in the U.S. effectively eliminated the exception in labor law for 'bona fide executive, administrative or professional' employees. The Labor Dept. must examine the duties of employees to determine who fits the exception, the judge said. But by raising the cap so high, he said, 'the Department exceeds it delegated authority and ignores Congress’s intent by raising the minimum salary level such that it supplants the duties test.'"

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide.aspx http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/Boy_Scout_Insignia.pdf http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066_Section1.pdf

Only the National Council could take back a rank since only it has the power to add anything to the requirements.

Point taken. It could possibly fall under Scout Spirit.

South of $1250 brand new.

As all things post BoR, not relevant under mandatory BSA procedures to the rank advancement approved by the BoR . 4.2.1.4 The Scout Is Recognized When the board of review has approved his advancement, the Scout deserves recognition as soon as possible. This should be done at a ceremony at the next unit meeting. His achievement may be recognized again later, during a formal court of honor.

I am aware of two instances locally where troops "took away" ranks post BoR. Once Council, though the district leadership, was aware of these incidents, the units were informed that the ranks were earned for all purposes when the BoR was passed and the unit adults were counseled on BSA procedure, including the prohibition of adding to BSA advancement requirements.. Guide to Advancement 3.0.0.4 Awards and Recognitions Awards and recognitions by definition are not part of the advancement plan. They supplement it in many ways, however, and often lead to increased retention. 4.2.1.3 The Scout Is Reviewed After he has completed all requirements for a rank, the Scout meets with a board of review. For Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star, and Life ranks, and Eagle Palms, members of the unit committee conduct it. 4.2.1.4 The Scout Is Recognized When the board of review has approved his advancement, the Scout deserves recognition as soon as possible. This should be done at a ceremony at the next unit meeting. His achievement may be recognized again later, during a formal court of honor.

They are down to under 2.5 pounds.

To determine the length of rope needed for a lashing, add the diameters (in inches) of the two spars at the point the lashing is being made. If one spar is 2-1/2 inches in diameter and the other is 3-1/2 inches in diameter, the total equals 6 inches. Multiply by 3 feet to get the length of the rope needed for lashing. In most cases, 1/4-inch diameter manila rope should take care of lashing two spars together as long as the combined diameter of both spars is 6″ or less. When the combined diameter is over 6 inches, use 3/8-inch diameter rope. Frapping removes the slack from a lashing. Wrapping simply needs to be neat, not tight.

Eagle Court of Honor ;last Thursday. I was invited. I attended. I was the only person present wearing BSA brand trousers or shorts. Socks are far down the list of "issues."

And the Cigar King too.