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So, with due precision, BSA, and not just a unit, can remove a Scouter from participation in a unit as a necessary consequence of barring participation in any unit. From Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America "Registration and participation in Scouting is a privilege that may be denied, limited, or terminated when determined to be in the best interest of Scouting." "To be eligible for registration, a Scouter must agree to: subscribe to the Scout Oath; fulfill the obligations of his or her position; and perform his or her duties in accordance with the Rules and Regulations, policies, and guidelines of the Boy Scouts of America." "Unit leaders must be selected and approved by the chartered organization and are subject to the approval of the local council and the Boy Scouts of America." "As a private, membership organization, the Boy Scouts of America has the right to set standards of membership and leadership. That right includes the ability to deny, expire, revoke, or otherwise limit or bar registration or affiliation with the Boy Scouts of America or any local council or any other affiliated organization. The general procedure for maintaining those standards is expressed in a publication titled Procedures for Maintaining Standards of Membership and Leadership; however, nothing contained therein limits the ability of the Boy Scouts of America to take such action as it may deem appropriate in its sole discretion."

All squares are rectangles.

Not from up here, are 'ya?

Google is your friend.

"The Chartering Org is the only group with authority to remove a leader from a Scouting Unit. " If you are referring to a Scoutmaster, for example, not really. That is why we have to "apply" for membership on Form 524-501.

We are having no problems in this area (NE Ohio) getting COs. We are continuing to have problems getting enough adult volunteers. That seems to be the biggest brake on membership. Speaking for the volunteers I know, Scouting still supports the Values of Scouting, and if you - you - are not doing that, it's on you. It is fair to distinguish between the Corporation and Scouting, but that has been true for a long time.

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I thought the "Turing Test" IS a series of questions. No? (Just checking. )

His gift is a measure of his affection and respect for you. Priceless.

What do you mean by "units"? The people?

Really good point. Whether you are a non-profit, whether your sales are subject to sales tax, and even the rate you collect vary by state (lower rate in LA). As of 2016, sales of Girl Scout cookies are subject to sales tax in three states.

An eBay search for Boy scout council patch will give you a lot of ideas, if that is the goal. Many patches seem too cluttered to me. Only so much room.

My old unit enlivened Eagle CoHs with a slide show regarding the Eagle over the years. Early slides are typically greeted with "Aww." Funny slides a must. Of course, if all modern technology is banned, there will be no slides. The important thing for parents is their Scout alone center stage for long enough to get pictures. No cattle calls.

If they have a fixed place of business per Norm Sugarman.

There is training for parents. http://www.scouting.org/Training/Adult/Supplemental/OrientationforNewBoyScoutParents.aspx You will need to eliminate the last sentence of the section on Patrols. It's 180 degrees off. The material can be helped with role-playing.

No reason not to "have a word" with the SPL that helps him learn his job better. The thing to avoid, as you know, is openly taking over his job by directing him. He, in turn, should guide the respective PL(s) with a quiet word. (Psst. Joe. [hand gestures]) As for your first observation, knowing what the issue is (the "question") is often tougher than finding answers. It was Scouters AFTER SM Basic Training repeatedly asking me for a list of the elements of the Patrol Method that led me to discover, wonder of wonders, that the last official coherent list or description was decades old. Because I had experienced the Patrol Method in the "Golden Age," I never dreamed that it had been misplaced. And I am assured that "misplaced" is the word by someone is the very best of all positions to know -- a gent who has been working away to correct the deficiency. So the question I was missing was "What happened to the BSA materials on the Patrol Method?" The answer is that the piece-parts are still there, scattered about, awaiting reassembly by someone with national clout. Meanwhile, "Brighten the corner where you are."

Scouter's Code of Conduct. 1. I will be a living example of the Scout Oath, Law. Motto and Slogan. (Replaces previous Scouter's Code of Conduct. Don't confuse detailed user's instructions with a code of conduct.) 2. I will always teach, use, and support Boy Scouting's most important Method, the Patrol Method as B.S.A. defines that Method (And B.S.A. should be about the task of defining that Method in all of its training materials for Scouts and Scouters.). 3. I will do my very best to encourage the Scouts in my unit to camp and/or hike each month of the year and be examples of living the Outdoor Code and principles of Leave No Trace. 4. I will do my best to develop the Scouts in my unit as responsible and capable leaders by training, example, and opportunity to lead. 5. I will do my best to encourage the individual Scouts in my unit to grow into self-confident, contentious, caring citizens who make the Good Turn, respect for others, and attention to their spiritual life an integral part of their personal culture. 6. I will encourage and facilitate advancement in rank and earning (actually earning) of Merit Badges by the Scouts of my unit as a means of encouraging their growth in skills and knowledge and as good citizens. 7. I will wear official B.S.A. uniform at all Boy Scout indoor program and, as practicable, at Boy Scout outdoor program and will strongly encourage the Scouts of my unit to do the same. (Having a "uniform" - that is, the same clothing, for all Scouts and Scouters, instead of merely a B.S.A. brand of clothing, would greatly facilitate this goal.)

I think: SPL (after getting PLC backing): "On the next campout, patrols are totally responsible for their menus, cooking, and KP. Adults will not assist. If you want to eat, you better get busy. As KP is a matter of health and safety, an adult will inspect after you are done with KP. You WILL satisfy that adult before being allowed to do anything else." Every patrol has a Grub Master and a Patrol Chef. If not done recently, have each patrol run teaching sessions on menu, cooking, and KP. Adults eat separately. I predict that no one will die of starvation. Burned food does not kill. Hunger is a great incentive. The way to get more impressive menus is the example of better meals - preferably in a patrol but in the adult mess group if needed ("That smells good!") and cooking contests.

For those who missed it. In what has been hailed as ‘a miracle’, one Waterford teenager has reportedly survived in his home with no connection to the internet for almost 6 whole hours. Answering to the name ‘David Gowan’, the 16-year-old was found in a distressed state yesterday evening, walking through a Dungarvan neighborhood holding his Samsung Galaxy above his head looking for a signal and muttering incoherently. The emergency services were notified and David was brought to a nearby Starbucks and hooked up to their Wi-Fi immediately. It remains unclear as to how the teen was left without internet for such a long period of time, and a search has begun to find David’s parents, with fears that they may have other kids without even a single bar of coverage. “David survived without access to any social media or video sharing sites for the better part of an afternoon,†said an amazed member of Waterford’s child protection services. “No GIFs, no memes, no Facebook. It’s incredible to see him in such good condition, considering what he went through. There’s grown adults who can’t go without internet for that long, let alone teenagers. God love him like, he didn’t even see the new Star Wars trailer yetâ€.

Again, are we making it too hard? Snow is snow. A weekend campout is a weekend campout (except in Journey to Excellence where it may be a weekend in a building watching videos or playing e-games).

Since there is no official definition of "snow camping experience," any reasonable definition should be accepted. How about a camping experience in the snow or during which it snows? If all they want is "different," how about low humidity (for the Floridians) or high humidity (for the Arizonans) or desert (for anyone from the areas with nothing like a desert). I'd suggest "island," but we'ed get a debate about what an "island" is.

What Council?

I either case, it's about overcoming challenges. Ambiguities should be resolved in favor of the Scout. Not his fault the language is not crystal clear or otherwise defined. 30's and raining is pretty challenging.

GOOD NEWS: The bizarre article on annual program planning that started this thread is GONE. The longest journey begin with the first step, and this is not just the first. We are returning to Boy Scouting.