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  1. At the end of the day, here in the real world, the electors of our western district unanimously voted for a candidate for District Chairman and the ruling Scout Executive vetoed their votes. Since then, they have reused to elect a Chairman. We are in the second year of this impasse. The SE wanted "community leaders" ($$$$$) in the top spots. That SE is gone, but his replacement is sticking to being the Caudillo, Bylaws notwithstanding.
  2. So is the Scout who passed for Life yesterday.
  3. Given the following: "A candidate must be registered through the time he is completing requirements but need not be registered thereafter or when his board of review is conducted." https://www.scouting.org/resources/guide-to-advancement/eagle-scout-rank/ "While working toward completion of the Eagle Scout service project, especially during the proposal approval process, a candidate has the right to expect the following:" https://www.scouting.org/resources/guide-to-advancement/eagle-scout-rank/ "An Eagle Scout candidate is to research and select a meaningful project, develop the idea, meet with adults, secure approvals, develop a plan, engage people to help carry out the plan, provide leadership, be accountable for the overall success of the project and — above all — complete the task at hand. This undertaking is most likely the biggest effort of a young Scout’s life." https://scoutingmagazine.org/2017/08/help-scouts-make-eagle-scout-service-project-great/ "9.0.2.0 The Eagle Scout Service Project While a Life Scout, plan, develop, and give leadership to others in a service project helpful to any religious institution, any school, or your community. " https://www.scouting.org/resources/guide-to-advancement/eagle-scout-rank/ it seems that an "Eagle Scout Candidate" is at least anyone who can affirmatively answer these questions: 1. Are you a Life Scout? 2. Are you a registered member of the Boy Scouts of America? 3. Is there time for you to complete the time-linked requirements for Eagle Scout (POR/active membership) before your 18th birthday? 4. Are you attempting to earn Eagle Scout?
  4. I would read: "Not an Eagle Scout." And I was in charge of hiring for my department at the telephone company. You have, I think, the correct instinct. Don't stretch the truth. It may lead to uncomfortable questions if you reach the interview stage.
  5. Our council lost it's first SE for phony membership numbers in 1926. Just history. I lost a DE for the same over fifty years later. Phony membership is "Digging deep for Scouting." As long as there is a metric for "performance," people will work to the metric and game the system. I wonder about people who cannot support Scouting simply because they are unhappy with B.S.A. One ought not confuse the two. Scouting was a going movement in the U.S.A. before B.S.A. existed. In the case of my troop as a Scout, the number of years was eighteen - 1908-1926 - before B.S.A. appeared in that area. Our west-side district had no council employees for half of last year, yet there was Scouting. Getting patches from Cleveland is certainly more convenient that getting them from London. Ms. Ireland is already in Scouting. That is not really her issue. It's the medal.
  6. Did she understand that she was not/if not Scout, Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star. or Life ?
  7. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. We hope you like our show. Hello. Hello. Hello. "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo?"
  8. The Don IMAGINED things. Don't you advocate for the opposite?
  9. Your first sentence seems inconsistent with you nest sentence. To me, "build" is consistent with "restore." But that is me.
  10. https://books.google.com/books?id=NYYu35CIIgsC&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=boy+scout+blue+wool+jacket+OR+"jac-shirt"+-red+-green&source=bl&ots=APOKkdgrhf&sig=ZuE_8aTSHUd_jd0tXEzKNxcwq6I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb28rMqvLYAhWS0FMKHegiB3EQ6AEISzAK#v=onepage&q=boy scout blue wool jacket OR "jac-shirt" -red -green&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=jBbjPX0Z_3sC&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=boy+scout+blue+wool+jacket+OR+"jac-shirt"+-red+-green&source=bl&ots=lTFjmMAHYr&sig=LZXhAFvIp_OrG5tn1hDjIRRG-xI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb28rMqvLYAhWS0FMKHegiB3EQ6AEIVTAN#v=onepage&q=boy scout blue wool jacket OR "jac-shirt" -red -green&f=false
  11. "Randy Woo (Randy Worchester) provided some information about the history of this special garment: According to several of the Philmont histories, the jac-shirt began with Dr. E. K. Fretwell, the Chief Scout Executive in Philmont's early days. In 1944, he brought up the idea of an outdoorsman shirt. He later sent a red shirt to Minor Huffman, Philmont's first General Manager. Fretwell had Huffman trace the bull in the tile at one of the entrances to Philmont for a patch for the red shirt. The first few shirts were made by J.A. Brewster of Camden, Maine. In August, 1946, Fretwell gave each of the regional executives a red shirt with the bull on it. The BSA partnered with Woolrich to develop several jackets, starting in 1949. The first jackets were green wool jackets designed primarily for the professional cadre to wear. It was called the "Scout Executive's Jacket" for several years. In 1952, Woolrich designed a jacket for Boy Scout professionals and volunteers to wear in green. Fearing complaints from the people behind The Masters® golf tournament, and because the BSA was moving toward a new "color scheme" to identify itself through, the BSA asked Woolrich to develop a unique jacket for it's Scouts and Scouters attending Philmont Scout Ranch and Explorer Base in the middle 50s. The red jac-shirt ("not quite a jacket, more than a shirt!") was developed, fielded, and everyone loved it from day one. The older versions -- and you can tell by feel -- are 100 percent wool. The new ones (developed in the late 60s) are wool and polyester blended (I think a 70-30 split...it is NOT 100 percent wool!!) and still there were one version made in the middle 70s which was 100 percent wool and Scotchgarded (tm), which gave it a different feel too. In 1972 (pay attention fellow collectors of Scouting items!! I'm looking for ONE OF THESE IN A LARGE OR EXTRA LARGE SIZE PLEASE!!), the BSA created a blue version of the jac-shirt originally for Exploring leaders. It was spun out at the 1973National Explorer Presidents' Congress (NEPC) along with a eight-inch NEPC back patch. The BSA was hoping that with the success of the red jac-shirt by the Order of the Arrow members (and now by National Eagle Scout Association members, both organizations "made" the red jac-shirt "theirs" for wear by their memberships), the blue one would do the same for the Exploring's youth. t failed. Explorers were not interested in wearing anything which "looked like Scouting" and this jacket was just dipped in blue dyes and the buttons were changed from red to blue. They didn't even bother changing the tag to add the Exploring "Big E". In 1975 and 76, the BSA tried to sell the jac-shirt to Cub Scouters, because it was the same color as the Cub Scout Blue uniforms. No dice. By this time, ALL Scouters wanted to wear the same "red jackets" made famous by those participating in Jamborees, in the OA or as NESA members. So, in 1976, the BSA said "no more blue jac-shirts!" and people like Mike Walton (who had the $40 back then to buy one but they ran out!) was out of luck (unless he or she runs across one in their size on eBay)! The jac-shirt is a durable thing....not very practical in the field -- I would have liked the BSA to develop one with reflective cuffs or a bottom edge so that Scouts and Scouters can be better seen in the dark in the woods....but hey, I don't develop the stuff..I just pester my wife enough to have her to break down and allow me to get it! *laughter* . . . In 2010, the BSA introduced an olive green jac-shirt which I am sure was not made by Woolrich™ -- this is a different design than the previous jac-shirts and little thicker. Some of the people associated with the military may recognize this version, as it looks very similar to a jac-shirt which was manufactured (under government contract by Woolrich™ ) for Soldiers in cold weather climates like Korea in the winter. Also unlike the current jac-shirts, a large version of the BSA's copyrighted logo appears on the left pocket in black. Several Scouters asked me "why olive and not red?" The BSA says that the olive jac-shirt better matches the "Centennial" (current) field uniform and pants better than the older red; and that eventually most outdoor items associated with the BSA will be using the olive color instead of the red. (It did not last long, as most Scouts and Scouters prefer the red color; so the BSA discontinued the olive green jac-shirts (they may be still be worn!) and contracted for a red version of this overseas-made jacshirt [sic].)" http://www.scoutinsignia.com/jacshirt.htm I want to add that the red jac-shirts just before the green ones were incredibly cheap - more like red burlap - shapeless. They were NOT selling. The quality of the green one was far superior. (Not that I dumped my red one. )
  12. "The American Wood Badge Alumni is a group of volunteers who have completed Wood Badge Training. This group is part of Scouting Alumni & Friends at the national level. It takes its place alongside NESA (National Eagle Scout Association), OA (Order of the Arrow), the four National High Adventure Bases, and Sea Scout Alumni Association. "
  13. I would hope we had "news source" that tells us what happened - not what someone SAID happened.
  14. Store manager should be willing to order a S for you so you can see,
  15. http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/apparel/mens/outerwear/washable-wool-jac-shirt.html#.WmjpMK6nHX4
  16. "All each of the cabins had was lights, electrical outlet and cots. "
  17. "One, two, three, four or five Patrols may form a Troop, but the Patrols are the working unit whenever practical and the Troop organization is designed to provide supervision, coordination, institutional loyalty and service." B.S.A., The Patrol Method, 1938 ed. at p. 3.
  18. There can be a disconnect between the real world and bureaucrats. I am a gear nut but some of the gear suggested in Scouting takes my breath away, value-wise. EXPENSIVE!!
  19. How about the SPL as chair of the Patrol Leaders' Council, which is supposed to plan the the Scouting time allocated to troop program -- a minority of Scouting time -- as representatives of their constituents ? "Patrol Leader, “[r]epresent your patrol at all patrol leaders' council meetings and the annual program planning conference.” B.S.A. , Scouting.org (2018) [capitalization as in original] "The Patrol Leaders bring the needs and wants of their respective patrols to The Patrol Leaders’ Council and the members democratically select the troop program." B.S.A., bsahandbook.org (2018) “…[T]hrough these patrol leaders, Scouts have a voice in deciding what activities the troop will put on its calendar.” B.S.A., Orientation for New Scout Parents (2018)
  20. So another Johnson "Gillwell" drifted into my sights and has a new home.
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