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No. 43 IS a Prime Number. 👍

Insufficient Prime Numbers!

"Scout led" is part of the Patrol Method, not a method in itself. Because adults are supposed to lead by influence, not directly, except in matters of safety, judgment is involved. More or less influence can be had. Still: A standard can be taught; hewing to that standard could be taught; hewing to that standard could be recognized; ignoring that standard could be commented upon. BSA does none of those things except accidentally. Some adult(s) notice and are influenced by the scattered remnants of Scouting still mentioned randomly by a very few at BSA and by local leadership. As noted above, JTM does not encourage actual USE of the Patrol Method. No points are given for anything happening in the patrol or any leadership by the Patrol Leaders' Council or SPL. I agree with others that this is not the result of any thought process leading to deliberate abandonment of Scouting. Those in charge simply don't know what Scouting is, as defined by its giants, and dismiss "traditional Scouting" as obsolete, having no idea what it is. What could be done with JTM to cause it to encourage Scouting? Journey Towards Standard (REVISED) Category: Use the Patrol Method Level 1 - Tenderfoot. The troop has one or more patrols, and each patrol has an patrol leader elected by the Scouts of the respective patrol. If the troop has more than one than one patrol, there is a Senior Patrol Leader elected by the Scouts, who appoints Scouts to fill other troop leadership positions, such as Quartermaster, and who leads the troop's activities. The Patrol Leaders Council meets at least four times a year, chaired by the Senior Patrol Leader, who may vote in its deliberations, and produces written program plans for troop activities. Each patrol meets separately at least ten time a year. Each patrol has a patrol flag. Every member of each patrol has a position in that patrol, such as Scribe or Grub Master, duties to be determined by the respective patrol leader. Level 2 - Second Class Achieve Level 1, plus, PLC meets a total of at least six times a year and produces written plans for troop activities. The troop conducts leader training for patrol leaders, the Senior Patrol Leader, and appointed troop leaders. Each patrol has at least six independent activities each per year (hikes, campouts; service projects). Most troop meeting time is devoted to activities of the Scouts as patrols: learning, preparing, contests, fun. Level 3 - First Class. Achieve Level 2, plus, PLC meets a total of at least ten times a year and produces written plans for troop activities. The PLC produces an written annual program and the SPL presents that program to the Troop Committee and asks for the Committee's support. Each patrol has at least six additional independent activities (for a total of ten each)(hikes, campouts; service projects). At least one Scout has attended an advanced training course, such as NYLT, National Advanced Youth Leadership Experience, Powder Horn, or The Kodiak Challenge. Each troop attaining Level 3 will receive a flag ribbon for each patrol flag bearing the words, "Scout Patrol," with the year awarded, and a flag ribbon for the troop's flag bearing the words "Scout Troop, with the year awarded.) Those troops so recognized shall have their unit numbers published in an annual "Patrol Method Honors List."

Shhhhhhh. You cannot get in trouble for doing what they don't know you're doing, I asked Eagles to help by letters and got a letter of reprimand from Region. One of the Eagles, who said "yes," wrote Council saying he appreciated being asked, and a Council middle-mgt. type forwarded it to Region for "action." "The adults come with the boys." I asked "for the most precious thing," these men had, their time. Maybe the "professionals" didn't read and thought I was asking for money. They get ALL bent about that.

When last I checked, Canada, the UK, Australia, South Africa, Mexico, the Philippines, and India recruit adults directly, and I was reprimanded for doing it in the U.S. (Contacted Eagle Scouts.). It may be possible to cure incompetence, but low IQ is tougher.

Well, no one to explain "A Scout is Reverent" for sure. 😉

Base "performance' on numbers, and someone will cheat.

The entire theory of "crime" is that it is not an offense only against the victim but is, instead, an offense against the jurisdiction or other ruler. Hence, "The Crown vs Defendant" or "The State of X vs. Defendant." More recently, some especially heinous crimes are said to be against humanity - genocide, use of weapons of mass destruction, wars of aggression. I suppose humanity and the World are close enough to be substituted, one for the other. The court typically asserting jurisdiction over such cases these days is the International Criminal Court at the Hague. However, most great powers, such as he United States, do not recognize the jurisdiction of that court.

In a court, a jury, selected from the rolls of voters, would be selected by a process that hopefully produces finders of fact who are not prejudiced. The jury would decide what contact occurred and if it was reasonable for the reporter to find the contact harmful or offensive ("battery"). Of course, none of that is required here, for you or any other member.

nk No. I think he is innocent until proven guilty. Until then he is "accused." That was once a societal norm. - "ethical." But societal norms change.

Valid point and a good reason why we are careful to try to pick objective jurors. You are absolutely correct, BSA is not legally obligated to be objective. We are all members at BSA'S pleasure - and ours. An ancestor on my Mom's side was Sam Adams.

I hope you're correct, among other thing for which I hope.

I suppose that a pat on the back could subjectively be an "offensive contact," but that's not the headline: "BSA Leader Slaps Backside of Reporter on Live TV." That headline is supported by one person's words and denied by the accused's words. Unless you have another video that supports the headline, it is not shown "on live TV.." I realize that "innocent until proven guilty" is no longer PC in some quarters, but even here?

Accusation is now conviction sans trial or plea? I looked at the linked video. Clearly she was surprised, but where she was contacted and with what is not shown. Is there some other video that contradicts the story the accused tells?

You put your Raptor claw on an important issue. "What is important for us [as adults in Scouting] is: NOT the food on the campout, but that the boys cooked it. NOT a sharp-looking flag ceremony, but that the boys put it together. NOT who would make the best Patrol Leader [in our opinion], but that the boys elect one. NOT that Johnny learns first aid, but that Billy teaches him. NOT that we cover everything on the meeting agenda, but that the Senior Patrol Leader is in charge. Our goal is not to get things done, but to create a safe and healthy environment with the training and resources that the Scouts need, and then let them do it. It can be a very messy business, and painful to watch. Meetings where the boy leaders are in charge can be very chaotic. And it can be very tempting for adults to jump in and sort things out, because that is what adults do. But we have to remember that that is the process of Scouting. That is how they learn—even from disorganization and failure. We just have to remember that our business as adults is not the same as the business of the boys. It is up to them to get things done. It is up to us to make sure they have what they need, but (within the bounds of health and safety) not what they do with it." Boy Scouts of America, Orientation for new Scout Parents

How many organizations contribute to the figure for India?

One fuzzy lil' monster - Bunny - forced us to keep all telephone sets on the floor - otherwise CRASH! She seemed to find the noise fascinating and would stare at the wreck for several minutes with her tail swishing.

"England and America are two countries separated by a common language."

Clod!

So by March, or so, we should know the size of the decline in youth membership.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions

Good point on relative statistics: "NYPD Chief of Crime Control Strategies Lori Pollock said the [2018] murder rate of 3.31 per 100,000 people in New York City is the lowest in 50 years." The murder capital of the U.S., East St. Louis, has a rate slightly over three times the N.Y.C. rate, which is falling. There seems to be differences of opinion even in the UK where all the civilized people stayed, as well as the U.S. In both nations, some view with alarm and some are content. So asking gets inconsistent views, much like articles found via Googling "murder rate UK." Much like asking Major General J.F.C. Fuller and Winston Churchill to give their respective opinions about Hitler.

"[M]y newest group of QMs: You are the troop Senior Patrol Leader? 😊

... or pointed sticks. 😵 It's the UK folks. Parliament has been considering banning all pointed knives. Any policeman - a national police service - can stop you and ask why you are carrying a multi-tool that includes a cutting tool. 1775, and all that.