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Reality is that we that perpetuate the real programs from our personal trenches locally need to scout on and take aid if we are fortunate from a local council. Sadly, our local experience is far from positive, though they do pass along most of the National rehash of some older viable options and many, in my view, suspect ideas that tip toe on the edge of real Scouting.

The issue is one of humanity and the people who are warped in some way. And those people, even if involved in the program, are still warped. No manner of rules or guidelines will completely stop someone that is going to do abusive things. That is why everyone needs to be aware and respond as required if something is out of line, no matter who it is. Sadly, no barriers are completely foolproof, no matter what they are.

Ultimately, the failure before, and very likely again, is not a Scouting issue. What is a Scouting issue may be too many NOT paying attention or simply following the rules, no matter how they may feel personally. IF the concern is not valid, then it will likely prove itself, but if it is valid, and it is ignored due to public opinion and personal friendships, then the failure is not on the back of Scouting.

I did not get any esponse, but I have challenged them to actually stand up for the basic tenets of Scouting and to not just use their "support" or being an Eagle as some kind of additional reason to tempt people to vote for them. I do not see many of them living the tenets in their so called leadership positions. If they did, perhaps we might actually see something positive develop in Congress. I get the impression many of them do not understand how poorly they are living those tenets, if at all. Certainly few are serving with Honor, or "doing their best", if the results we have are any measure .

Hard to say. If they have the fortitude to stand up to the ignorance that continues to grow out of this sorry administration, maybe. Not going to hold my breath though.

A response from the Scouting Caucus in Congress. https://thehill.com/homenews/5623663-glenn-thompson-pentagon-proposal-scouting-ties/

Thanks for noting "free" is not a good word here. Nothing is ever free, but often it can be less expensive.

We have myriad examples of poor end results when the first notice of overreach and ignornce appeared and we ignored it. Bringing it to the fore just makes it less of a total surprise when one of the ego meisters in charge gets such poor ideas. What the nay sayers never note in regard to the Jambo involvments is the almost free training and practice the Military gets in those events. Dealing with large groups in events and emergencies is difficult to stage, so the Jambo offers one way for that to happen. In 85 when "Bob" came to visit, the Army made themselves proud in their response and support. The speed and turn around of drying out thousands of sleeping bags and restoring order in flattened areas was beyond expectations. And, if our old friend Joe Price's story to me as to how he became a collector is partly true, the Military drew on early Scouting manuals and training to kick start and support the huge training needs. He was tasked in his position in a part of the support groups in finding as many of those Scouting resources for training support that he could, and so it became a long time hobby after the War. He told me once that the original Field Book by Hillcourt wa one of the standard resources, as were the early Sea Scout manuals. And the continued service to honor Vets on the various National Days is almost expected in many communities. The service to the Civil War reunion in the thirties or the flag postings in cemeteries we see regularly. Many instances of horable Flag retirements at Scout camps, and the Eagle projects that focus on respect for the military and its members. IF this actually is proposed, I suspect it will NOT be well received by Congress, even in this confused period of our history.

Woke is not a real thing; just a hot button prod. Simple adherence to the Scout Law, Oath, and so on is not Woke, just civility and basic kindness for others, no matter their beliefs or how they may look, o what their name are. Ignorance held up by stupidity and sheeple.

The included link came in an email to me this morning from National, it appears. How many others may have gotten this? https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties

From an email out of National this morning. https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties Secretary of the Navy is already pushing back. But this coming out of the current administration is not a surprise.

Here is a link to a slide show of some of the statues placed, and that may still be there. It would be a great adventure for womone with the time to pursue an updated gathering of photos of those statues still standing across the country. https://libertysisters.com/index.php/nggallery/slideshow?page_id=117

Not on purpose. It seems to me that we have something similar in process in D.C.

Not yet, though it was on one of the common FB pages. Taking after the Gov and "leaking stuff".