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Retired; Past substitute teacher. 25 years in retail management.
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Scout and Explorer: 1955-1962; Eagle<br /><br />
Scouter: ASM 1966-67; Member at Large, NESA rep 1976; Unit Commissioner 1977; SM 1977-Present; RT staff off and on 1979-Present; Jamborees: Scout, 1960; ASM, 1985; Staff, 2010. Miscellaneous participation in training and so on since 1979; Woodbadge with 3 beads, including both old and new course material. <br /><br />
Scouting Historian of Sorts; one of the larger accumulations of literature and related ephemera in So Cal focused on history and sociology of the program, as well as unusual connections such as comics and advertising. Mount 2-3 displays per year for council and/or district, and occasionally unit.<br /><br />
OA; Ordeal 1959 at Camp Arataba summer camp; Brotherhood 1960 building Helendade (then Running Springs SR); Vigil 1987 VCC.<br /><br />
SB; Youth Religious 1961, Adult 1980's; Miscellaneous "being around a long time awards".<br /><br />
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BA 1971 UCR; Teaching Credential 1975 CSULB.
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skeptic started following GSUSA votes on proposal increasing membership dues to $85 , A sign our image is less tarnished? , Another lost camp and 6 others
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I have recently noted a number of instances where pundits on line and in articles have began making "Boy Scout" comments in a sarcastic manner to indicate "goody goody", or being a good person. Does that mean we are back?
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You may be right, but that goes against a major part of the program. That upkeep and so on could be maintained with some arrangement like I noted, and the properties would get far more use as well. But as I have said a lot lately, I am just a peon whose opinions hold little or no sway. Let us be real; most of the camp issues are simply due to poor planning and kicking things down the road. Cooperative use of properties is a win, win concept, or so it seems to me.
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Sadly, though the handwriting was already on the wall, I announce the loss of another almost one hundred year old Summer Camp. Camp Three Falls is gone from the barely surviving Ventura County Council. We will not belabor the myriad reasons why, or how it could have been avoided. Most of them have been noted on here over the past few years, even before the lawsuit and bankruptcy. It is just sad that somehow, in my view, National has not taken a strong stance in preserving camps in councils, as they have for decades been the backbone of the programs. Most councils struggle regularly and have fewer connections, but National might have considered, and actually still could consider, finding a working partnership with outdoor groups, sporting good stores that encourage camping and outdoor activities, including climbing, and maybe form an alliance that would help local councils save camps, even if they are not only for scout use. I keep picturing something along the line of a consortium of say, for example, REI, Dicks, and Bass stepping in to refurbish existing camps and open them to the local scouts, but also to others, especially climbing groups that might use climbing walls, and shooting clubs that might update ranges for all shooting sports. Join with the Y to update water sports, and update boating on lakes in the camps or nearby, again making them available to selected groups such as other youth organizations and churches. Work with colleges and universities to develop on site study options for outdoor sciences, shared with the Scouts for traditional and occasional short term merit badge options. Where the Forest Service and similar government natural resource caretakers find it feasible, perhaps build training sights for park restoration an fire fighting, again allowing youth and leaders to learn more about these things. But that is something that people with real connections would need to work on. And few councils on their own have those resources. The grant just received by national for youth program development proves that there is an interest. Meanwhile, we have officially lost our camp; though rumor says the new owner will work to make it available to us and to save its history. We will see how that shakes out. It could be on the level just noted, or it could be empty promises.
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If we were simply carrying the same membership number to the various positions, which we technically are, it should not be that hard I would think. The only real issue is to assure the person is registered with YP and so on. If their number is on more than one list or roster, so what? Too simple I guess.
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Latest Guidance on Individual Scout Accounts
skeptic replied to vtcchokie92's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Another example of some individuals looking for problems that really are not there. Unless some individual scout ended up with an account from popcorn under his name in big dollars, it would never even float a butterfly. Use commons sense, and be even handed with all youth and do not favor one over another, meaning solid rules in place that apply to all. We finally went to the unit just paying for as much as possible directly and not trying to account for individuals directly. -
Depending on the project, it might be something to consider as ongoing service later for unit hours and such. Sadly, many projects disappear far too quickly or are destroyed or removed. I felt badly about a couple projects that had no way of surviving very long, as they were open to the elements and or in our area wildfire. The one was a great nature trail for a local group, and just a few weeks after completion we had one of our rare rainy periods and it flooded the area heavily. We have also seen local officials come into place with issues with something, or inspectors that felt, after the fact, that the approved project did not meet standards, though their predecessor said it did. On the other hand, some projects seem to last a very long while, which is nice to see on occasion, especially if the public knows it was service by Scouting.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 14 - Plan Effective
skeptic replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
As noted numerous times. Our judicial system is broken in many ways. It still favors power and money, which often are hand in hand. It also seems to easily be swayed by social media and so on. Wose though is that there are simply far too many less than honest lawyers, in my view. -
While looking for something I ran across an old post, though not sure how I ended up with it, commenting on Merlyn. That brought me to recollecions of Bob White and a few others from "way back". So, I tried to find a cumulative list of present and past members, but had no luck. Is there one someplace. My tech skills are very weak, and my focus a bit fuzzy at times. Thanks.
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A roll of heavy duty trash bags.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 14 - Plan Effective
skeptic replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Wouldn't want the attorney to not get billable time. -
This is the truth with this, and any rational thinker saw the problem at the start. No amount of money will "fix" those harmed. The only winners are the lawyers that prey on people and twist the truth to pad their pockets. You will never make "survivors or victims" whole. But the 95 percent plus youth and leaders who have been penalized by trying to do the impossible, fix the past, are the final victims who now struggle to find a way forward with the new order. Scouting precepts are a good guide, just as many religious dictums are, but only right acting and thinking people can "mostly" protect the youth or others mentored or served. The darkness of society is always waiting for the careless or easily misled to allow them to act badly and victimize. And that includes the predator lawyers.
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 14 - Plan Effective
skeptic replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Just posted on Aaron on Scouting. It appears that finally the issue is recognized on broader screen world wide. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2024/10/21/five-things-i-learned-from-scouting-americas-safeguarding-youth-symposium/ -
GSUSA votes on proposal increasing membership dues to $85
skeptic replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Girl Scouting
One issue may be the now too-common increase in price and decrease in size. I was very surprised, almost annoyed, last year when I realized the sleeve of cookies had fewer cookies and more air. -
GSUSA votes on proposal increasing membership dues to $85
skeptic replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Girl Scouting
In my naivete I have to wonder where the profits from cookies go, the ones that are raked from the top before local groups may receive them? Just a query.