also at this point he has created a new group that runs practicly every thing. these three adults force their will through their sons. one of which i did his job for him and his father was quite angery that we were working to straiten out all our merit badge books and this was supposed to be done by his son and wasn't and pulled me aside and said i should participate in the troop. sadly the only comment the came up was well i would if your son wasn't lazy and would take his job seriously. he never did and his father walked off and got the other two heads together and chatted for a good half hour. btw we are our own CO