Sentinel947

At least you can remember the names of the active patrols in your troop..... I cannot.

I think they meant Certified Trainers in their Troop to train folks in their own units.

Just like the workplace, relationships matter. Employees get burned out if they don't like or respect their managers. Or if their manager makes boneheaded decisions. Same is true for volunteering.

My Troop has run ILST for a couple years. I think it's time to develop a plan since most of our scouts have attended it. Maybe scale back from doing it every year to every other year. The most important training of Scouting is done on a weekly basis and comes from experience.

Potato Chips and Cereal are the worst. Half the bag is air!!!!

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My Troop runs ILST. Which might be the program you are using. We have done it on an outing for only Scouts with a POR. We do it once a year. In addition to the ILST course (which takes at most 3-4 hours) we have the SPL's and Instructors create a theme of the weekend and run activities based on that. Last year was cooking. This year I believe will be first aid, with all the fun fake blood and such. If you do create your own course, I'd be really interested in seeing it. We thought about developing our own. We started doing ILST in 2013. It had been 4-5 years since the Troop had done a leadership training course besides sending 3 scouts a year to NYLT. There was too much going on personally for me to develop a course from scratch. Coulda been something we asked the boys for input on, looking back on it.. Sentinel947

Also the account that signed off as David Scott was registered on the forum in 1999.

Nice to see another young adult involved with the program. It's well worth your time.

I imagine Eagle scouts have been forgetting or losing their scouting skills for a long time. I have some memory issues. I have to practice regularly in order to keep my knot skills useable. I'd think it's normal if somebody leaves Scouting for several years or decades that they would forget a skill they don't practice.

Happy to have you!

Issues and Politics is kinda the wild west. It's the spot on the forums for people to debate/argue the more contentious issues, without having that spill into the rest of the forums. Took me a while to get used to how rough this subforum is. I'm always pleased when its quiet and not active in this particular subforum.

Welcome to the forum. Glad to see you are really giving your son a great experience. Ultimately the responsibility for the other boy's advancement is on them and their parents. You can only help them and point them in the right direction.

We used to do a permission slip for each outing when I was a scout. My folks and I just made photocopies of the form, Mom signed it and I filled in the outing and the date each month...... defeating the purpose of the form... A few years back we went to an annual permission slip. I don't handle that aspect of things. It seems to be going well.

@@T2Eagle gives solid advice. I'll add me my piece for @@bubba.bubba. Your enthusiasm is great. Find a way to get your ASM's the certifications in a way that respects their experience and knowledge. The training is set up with the expectation that the leaders being trained are new to scouting, or at least new to the ASM or SM position. They have a lot to gain from the IOL's/ SM Specific training, even if they know bits and pieces of the outdoor skills already. A 10-20+ year tenured ASM? Not so much. I'd never demand that somebody like @@TAHAWK or @@Stosh take IOL's. They've been in Scouting longer than I have been alive. All it would do is insult them.

Just go and enjoy the course. The only prize is bragging rights. The course is about learning and having fun, making new connections to scouters in your council. I used to be a Buffalo!

Scouts pick them, we've never had an issue with appropriateness. We have had issues with scouts arguing over the name. It got so heated that the ASPL stepped in to mediate. The patrol couldn't achieve consensus on it, (or on anything else) so they decided it was better if they split into two patrols. ​My Troop is big, no big deal to have another patrol.. Small Troops, that may not be a viable solution to the issue. Your mileage may vary.

I wrote a reply. The forum ate it up. ​I don't agree with your assessment. Look up EEOC vs Lawry's Restaurants. A recent example of the government protecting men from sex discrimination. If these schools actually have a no male nurses policy, then there's a legal gold mine just sitting there.

​I'm not sure I see the connection between Title VII and Illegal Immigration. Perhaps you can fill me in?

This is why as a trainer I keep a copy of every roster for every training event I teach. So that when a council inevitably loses the certification, I can help people avoid having to retake a training.

I speak fluent Stosh, he was being completely sarcastic.

That's blatantly illegal if that's actual hiring policy. Would violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

If your son is working Philmont, they issue a uniform I believe. If he's on a trek, wear the BSA pants or knock offs traveling and in base camp only, then ditch them for lighterweight nylon zip offs of gym shorts. Pack lighter, hike smarter.

I skipped Tigers. I remember my Cub Scout overnight. Our Den visited Voice of Americas broadcast station in town. I remember Crossover. That's it. I was a cub 2002-2005.

Congrats!