I hope i was not misunderstood. I did not mean to say that the uniform is not importaint, meerly that it is second to other parts of scouting. Actualy it is very much the same here in Europe. In malta many people chose what parts of scouting they like and which they dont. Another problem here is the hipocricy. For example while on a group visit to germany one of our members had a camoflage patern daypack, one of the members of the Scouters Council here in malta saw this and sent a long letter telling us about the wrongs of camo. Though not camoflage this same person and many other scouters 'in charge' atend national camps wearning gull metal atire all of the matching year and country of issue from boots to the parka. Also they shout and drill at scouts from realy young ages for pointless reasons. I once even saw one make a 12 year old scout do pushups in the street while on a historical visit for straying slightly from the group... I mean please