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Scouter0626

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  1. Thanks to all for the great information here! This is really helping! @KISMIF - Half of the DL are first year. Another DL is on his second year. The current CC is a webelos DL with three years as a DL under his belt. there really was no contention for the CC position. I spent some time with the previous CM to understand the job was still in contact with him for a few months after he moved on. The current CC never really "shadowed" the previous CC and I worked thru the previous CM to get what ever material I from the previous CC and Secretary. This was because of some personal differences and from the previous committee, they felt the current CC was pushing his way thru to make changes and brought in council members. It was messy. As far as issues between DL and the CC. The common complaint is the CC does not listen to ideas and concerns, is too controling, takes on many tasks and doesn't deliver, a lot of I told you so. So it seems to me to be a leadership issue. In one instance we had an auction at the B&G. One DL, who lost his job wasnt able to get all his tasks done for the auction, the CC harped on it until he finally said that he needs to be replaced. Then came the PWD. I had asked the committee for how we would do the trophies and how many. In previous years each scout would get a trophy. This year the pack did not have the money to do so. So I asked each DL and committee member for alternatives via email. Some suggestions came back and then the CC replied saying that these ideas were "cheesy" and basically crap. This DL took offense and almost quit. I approached the CC saying that the tone was very condescending and we would loose leaders this way. Also during the PWD, the CC was telling people what to do even though I had a specific plan and it was being followed. So a DL blew up on the CC and told him to stay out. That wasnt right on the DL side but understandable. Again to me this is a leadership issue. The CC has had the most training, but doing double duty as DL does not help. I always hear from the CC the he has the biggest den. I have had asked the CC to delegate some of the tasks he had, and he created a fundraising chair. It was never discussed that this position was available, so that took people by surprise and committee members where upset. Technically the CC was in the wrong because he didnt advise the COR of the position. Is that a training issue? I have a one-on-one with the CC but he doesnt see the issues or maybe I am not conveying it well. The CC believes everybody is against him. It is almost paranoia. I apologize for the lenght of my response but it is almost too much write out. I hate complaining about anything, i just want to fix it and move on. But I feeling disgruntled myself.
  2. I have been keeping a good relationship with my COR and he at least knows my name. However, i have tried the one-on-one with the CC and tried to be diplomatic with him and well it obvissouly didnt work. So, i have to be more direct basically say people can't work with you and are frustrated and have expressed quitting. Last year, when the CC took over, there was a big blow out with the prior committee and him about becoming a CC. This sucks, I am loosing enthusiasm.
  3. Thanks for the reply. I have not discussed this with my charter org rep. I did not think to even concern him. I have brought this up with the district commisioner. However, i did not mention the leaders quitting issue but I tried to express my issues. Mistake on my part there. How much involvement does the charted org need to be? historically in this pack, there hasnt been much. I have been filling that gap this year.
  4. Hello All, I have to say this forum is great. I am new CM finishing my first year. It has been a challenge to say the least. Between the politics and people in general. In any case, our CC does double duty as a Webelos leader. Also, a few of the Den leaders have found the CC to be difficult to work with to the point that they want to quit. I find myself to be a referee of sorts. I have tried to have discussions with the CC and he feels that the world is against him respected. Mind you the CC is in his first year. He wants to do everything but then it falls apart. I am very frustrated and I do not want to loose leaders over this. Any advice?
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