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My thoughts are how are they going to spend money they don't have to rebrand everything. I expect dues to go up even higher next year. Will the ring that goes around the World Scouting Crest, which currently says "Boy Scouts of America Since 1910", now say "Boy Scouts of America, from 1910 to 2025"? Also, besides the obvious change to the Eagle rank patch, what about the Eagle medal that shows BSA across the Eagle? What will Scouts BSA members now be called? I hope and pray they don't use the SA abbreviation at all, as this has major ties to old Nazi party, who were often called brownshirts.

Better council fee than what we have. Ours just went up to $85 to match National dues.

Thank you all for the input. We spoke with the camp and they will make sure that troops follow the proper procedure and that no one will have sole use over any portion of the facilities.

Looking for thought on how to handle a situation we faced last year that we will likely encounter this year. The summer camp we go to has a latrine/shower shared by two campsites. Inside, there is a urinal, sink, mirror, toilet, & shower. On the backside, there is a shower and toilet, each having their own door with no access to the inside main area. There is a sign on front that can be changed to either Youth or Adult to identify who is currently inside the main part of the building. Last year, our boy troop arrived after the female troop that was in the next campsite. They placed their own signs on the building that stated females only inside, and males use the exterior shower and toilet. The exterior shower is very small, with nowhere to put your clean clothes without getting wet. We spoke with the female troop about setting up a schedule so that both troops could use the inside portion as there was also no hand-washing station on the outside. They would not budge. Camp commissioners could not get them to change either and the only fix was to bring in a portable foot-pump handwashing station for us to use, or travel 3 campsites away to use the nearest empty campsite facility. We had twice the number of people that had to use the facilities. I am suggesting that the camp have a set procedure that everyone must follow so one troop can't make up their own rules. An easy one I see is adding to the signage that would include Adult Female, Adult Male, Youth Female, or Youth Male that can be changed on the outside so you know who is in there before entering. Does anyone have any other thoughts?

Yup, my inaugural comment was off base. However, I believe that continued to change the rules is not the way to go.

In statement #3, it states first time joiners.

So much for previous statements that the program would not change. Now they change the rules to make sure there will be a female Eagle Scout in the inaugural year. Where were the adjusted rules when they opened registration to homosexual scouts. Those scouts did not get any benefit to being able to join and obtain their Eagle if they did not have enough time.

You hit the nail on the head!

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Also not sure how this is going to help families with boys and girls to participate at the same time except for Pack meetings. The pack in our area have den meetings on all different nights, so unless the siblings are twins or in the same grade, they wouldn't have meetings on the same night anyway. I assume some packs have all den meetings on the same night, but don't see it working in our area.

Yes it was sarcastic, they are desperate for money. Could see it especially when they are now requiring all adults attending summer camp to be registered with the BSA and pay dues. We had an event recently that required everyone to be registered with the BSA and I countered with the council program director that this has to include MB Counselors as they are registered members of the BSA but do not have to pay dues. Loophole to the "must be registered" rule IMHO.

Since the BSA will be getting more registration dollars with this program, where is the push to cancel the membership rate increase we are all going to suffer this year?

As SM, I have refused completed blue cards issued by summer camp that I know and can verify were not completed. Namely, I had 2 scouts take the camping merit badge which were marked fully complete even though they did not have the 20 nights of camping under their belt. Basically we would inform the scouts of how many nights they had completed and hold the blue cards until they fulfilled the requirement. We would try to plan extra campouts to help them complete them faster.

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What I don't understand is that the Scout Executive for President Ford Council told us during this year's summer camp that the 2 camps in our council were the only 2 in Michigan that had both an increase in kids and were both profitable. So why not keep both open to Boy Scout Summer camp? Instead, they only make the northern camp a Cub Camp (while keeping the other southern Cub Camp open) which I doubt will see an increase in youth and profit without the Boy Scouts using it next year. The issue with driving longer distances is that we had numerous troops that rotated leadership during camp week due to work schedules. This is going to be more difficult with longer drive times.