RichardB

Here is the information. https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4093007515 A chance to lead a safe, sustainable, and compliant environment for all employees and program participants.

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Transportation guidelines change over the years. Language around travel has also changed, as has driver education. Today's terms and laws focus on distance between cars, following to closely, tailgating, adding more following distance during inclement weather. It did not make sense to keep using antique terms. However, I'll entertain language if you all have it. There is also no longer language around carbon tetrachloride....has not been available in years.

https://www.scouts.ca/news-and-events/news/2024/04/scouts-canada-makes-pledge-to-be-scouts-for-all-canadians New leadership and focus announced monday.

No trap. Your question is asked and answered on it's merit. With a citation of the source of the answer by the guy who publishes it.

But.... he is not, from your OP, he is an active Cub Scout, still engaged in Cub Scout advancement and programming.

And that is why it cannot be done with a single Webelos.

@InquisitiveScouter single Webelos cannot camp with a unit. Webelos camp only as a Den or with a Pack. https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss03/#a Only Webelos and Arrow of Light dens may conduct den coordinated campouts. Webelos and Arrow of Light den coordinated campouts are restricted to no more than two consecutive nights. Den camping only includes the Webelos or Arrow of Light youth. As with pack coordinated campouts, the den must have a BALOO trained adult leader in attendance and all Youth Protection policies apply. Webelos/Arrow of Light Den Camping may participate and camp at a Scouts BSA troop unit campout. All Cub Scout camping requirements still apply, including the den must have a BALOO trained adult leader in attendance and all Youth Protection policies apply. Webelos/Arrow of Light Dens may only participate at a Scouts BSA “camporee” as day visitors.

July 22-31, 2026

Not sure what likewise means in this context. However on the subject co-ed Scouts BSA units my response would be that there are not any co-ed options for Scouts BSA units. Each unit has its own charter and would need to follow the requirements for that charter. Rolling your own "whatever" and calling it Scouting is a risk I'd not suggest anyone take with youth or their standing with the organization. The SAFE checklists specifically addresses this: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/safe/ Under Supervision: Knowing and delivering the program of the Boy Scouts of America with integrity. As does the Scouter Code of Conduct. https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/bsa-scouter-code-of-conduct/ 92 % + of youth in America are not involved in the movement. Organizing, running sustainable units and growing the movement is one of the five imperatives to move forward. I'm not aware that going co-ed is on the radar.

Keep reading: Risk advisory for each HAB are provided with the AHMR download: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/ahmr/

https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/ahmr/medical-formfaqs/ Q. When does the height/weight chart apply? We have differing opinions in our unit/district. A. The height/weight chart will apply in the following known adventure activities: Backcountry activities. When your travels take you more than 30 minutes off an accessible roadway, fire lane, camp road, etc., or where you float, walk, hike, bike, or otherwise go into the backcountry. Depending on the terrain and local conditions, this might be a few hundred yards or a few miles into the backcountry. Most Boy Scouts of America high- adventure camps include a backcountry component (ask them about their requirements before you go). For example, Philmont Scout Ranch has this standard in place. When your lodge, unit, district, or council requires it as part of a program. The height/weight chart generally would not apply in the following situations (unless specific instructions are issued as an exception): Most resident camps. The majority of the Boy Scouts of America resident camps and most local council Cub Scout/Scouts BSA resident camps have drive-up campsites and don’t require packing in or out. Check with the camp beforehand to be sure. Cub Scout programs. (Backcountry and high-adventure activities are not age-appropriate for Cub Scouting.) Most Wood Badge courses in a typical resident camp setting, though courses held at a national high-adventure base such as Philmont Scout Ranch will enforce the limit. Risk advisory for each HAB are provided with the AHMR download: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/ahmr/

This is not a revert to previous policy. It is a change.

Since I was tagged. Bears can paddle. They cannot paddle down the river to go on trek / collect miles. That is beyond the scope / age appropriateness for Cub Scouting. So, sure you could paddle on a still wide river, but you can't go down the river with the Cub Scouts and call it a paddling hike. Any questions, show this to your SE / Aquatics Director in the Council and have them reach out to me richard.bourlon@scouting.org or our the national outdoor program lead who manages the aquatics program. We concur on the situation as you defined it in the quote above. Please don't put yourself or youth at risk.

https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/safe/ S - Supervision

@InquisitiveScouter your council is the go to for all volunteer related questions and feedback. As part of the restructuring that was a choice made by the councils. The national council no longer has that function nor resources. Social media sites as feedback loops sometimes work, and sometimes the submitters don't like it when they get what they ask for. It's hit or miss.

Light was shed as requested by the first answer. You appear to correctly understand that "The BSA requires review and approval of the completed form by a physician."

The following medical contraindications are based on BSA operational considerations and may be more conservative than those listed in the “Diving Medical Guidance to the Physician.” Emphasis added above.

It obviously wasn't as obvious as it needed to be.

@InquisitiveScouter I'd suggest to your list that CPR is a skill every youth you supervise should know, practice and understand not to stop until professional help arrived. In my tenure as a Scoutmaster, professional trainers were brought in for the youth in my unit and they did well in first aid events at camporees.

Beware Multiple Comorbidities and cognitive decline. BSA known issues: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/risk-factors/

@sierracharliescouter No one will harm you without your consent; you will only be harmed when you think you are harmed. Epictetus...

Please help me understand what part of this is not clear? Cub Scout pack unit coordinated camping is limited to single overnight experiences. I see lots of discussions on calls for justification not a lack of clarity. Interesting to see that when there were cry's of inconsistency and those are removed, it is Orwellian. Specifically, updated LOS inconsistency for additional clarity (there are likely others in the wild) does not equate to Orwellian practice or gaslighting. As to why, the limitation on Pack and Webelos / AOL Den camping of one night as an age appropriate guideline. This has been in place for a long time - can query on this forum back to 2019, your own posting of the chart, BALOO training, Cub Scout page, etc. Really similar to the limitation of shooting sports do not occur at Cub Scout unit level, only the council level. Or @Eagle94-A1 favorite Dodge ball is prohibited. Couple of good broad why's: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/safety-moments/is-it-scouting/ and https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/safety-moments/unauthorized-restricted-activities/

Assuming this is reference to General Liability insurance I'd point you to materials published in the Guide to Safe Scouting, Insurance (emphasis added) https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss10/#a This coverage provides primary general liability coverage for registered adults of the Boy Scouts of America who serve in a volunteer or professional capacity concerning claims arising out of an official Scouting activity, which is defined in the insurance policy as consistent with the values, Charter and Bylaws, Rules and Regulations, operations manuals, and applicable literature of the Boy Scouts of America. The Unit fundraising application is a requirement. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34427.pdf The second page actually goes into the why's as you answer the questions.

Oh, also - how can and asked and answered question in 2019 still be under debate?