Renax127

Of you know see picture of kid, in the newspaper, at high school sporting event with kids name, look in regular old phone book for address.

My son has decided he's burned out. Too much paperwork, politics, classroom, rules, etc bs so he's done. We're going backpacking this weekend he'd like to have some other boys around but he's looking forward to getting outside and just hanging out

All that sounds pretty good too me, but seriously sell Girl Scout cookies at a camporee?? I mean I like a tagalong as much as the next guy but come on. Speaking of Merit Badge fair, my son is just completely over them only took two for him to figure it out.

Oh my goodness this. Two scouts will do just fine on their own, unless there are adult requirements about what they have to use on a camping trip are enforced. And if they do run across something that needs more than two scouts to do, well asking for help is ok.

Again, Scouts is not the military, so they do not wear covers they wear hats. So military rules on covers have no bearing, and if they did what eras rules should we follow. In the 90's Marines were not allowed to wear a cover anywhere indoors (unless under arms) now the rules are different. *Wanted to add this http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/clothing/style-tips/hat-etiquette/. Sure you could use this but the list of rules is frankly silly.

Doff is a funny word

Well the universe tends toward entropy and rolling poop down hill is way easier.

Thanks but that's a little far south for me, I'm in Jacksonville

Maybe I didn't make this clear, the current SM and CC were also telling people (including the DE) I was the new SM as late as two weeks ago, I jumped no gun.

Now that's the answer one is looking for, join up, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Not really looking for perfect, just looking for trying hard and acknowledging that it's a goal to strive for not something that can't be done. More than willing to help out however I can toward that goal, knowing it will never be reached not really gonna try to deal with intentional adult roadblocks anymore.

Oh yeah, we've looked A LOT he's tired of trying to find some place as well. Is there a patrol method boy led troop around, well I'm sure there is but both of us are tired of trying to find one.

Thanks but I'm in Florida. I admit I should have known something was up when none of them drank coffee I mean who does that.

Oh yeah they are trained all the required online ... uh stuff, Eagle, WB and OA. It's simply "the boys can't do it right" thinking on their part (what if they don't do X, etc) and an inability to deal with the chaos inherent in Boy led. Lots of but what if they do it wrong comments to me on Sunday. I am not an Eagle, I was a Scout and made it to Star. That said I rechartered my son, not sure he's going back but just in case, I did not. I looked in to BPSA before I think I might again. I also tried contacting our DE about finding a troop but honestly I did that before and it seems she doesn't know what boy led means either.

Well the decision has been made, I will not be rechartering and for now neither will my son. When I got home my son laid it out for me When he got home from school asked his mom "What happened yesterday? Dad was supposed to be SM and now (other guy) is" "No point in staying, he won' let us doing anything" To me at home "well I don't want to go back, I was just staying to help you change things anyway. I'll look for another troop but every one we've gone to hasn't been boy lead" "I'll join Ventures when I'm 14, I just want to hike and camp anyway" Thanks for all the advice and just letting me blow off steam today. This affected me way more than I thought it would, I was distracted by it all day.

Well I think the same way however lots of people don't and think it's better to be given something than earn it.