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1. I think Mr. Turley, the current National Chair, meant Chief Scout Executive (CSE) not CEO. There is no CEO position in BSA. 2. There is also no President position, which would have been Mr. Turley's title had the position not been renamed to National Chair. The last President of the BSA was Randall Stephenson. Michael Surbaugh was never President of BSA, he was the unlucky 13th CSE of the BSA. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/05/31/meet-your-bsa-national-key-3/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_presidents_of_the_Boy_Scouts_of_America I hope CSE Mosby hits the ground running with a workable rescue plan. IMHO, releasing a video to the troops today would be a start. My $0.01, P.S. Is Roger Mosby related to John Mosby , assistant CSE? P.P.S. No Powerpoint please!

My understanding. Following the CBC investigation which occurred about 8 months after Ms. Yale resignation, Scouts Canada hired KPMG to audit their records. The KPMG June 21,2012 report (below) was made public and supported the CBC investigation findings with more details and analysis. https://postmediaedmontonjournal2.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/sc-kpmg-report.pdf After the report was released, Scouts Canada made a public apology. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/scouts-canada-apologizes-to-sex-abuse-victims-1.1068528 Whether Yale was fully informed of the facts is not known. Unlike fellow scout executives, her statements did not give wiggle-room. My $0.02,

Human Resources? https://www.facebook.com/roger.mosby.3

Are you referring to Janet Yale, former Scouts Canada executive commissioner and CEO (2010-2011)? I believe she came from Canada's telecom industry. She cited "philosophical differences" in her resignation, but there was also the issue of a secret list of pedophiles in Canada. She said the list didn't exist. A CBC investigation proved otherwise. Interesting background: https://mcgillnews.mcgill.ca/s/1762/news/interior.aspx?sid=1762&gid=2&pgid=1023 The July 2009 Action Plan for Canadian Scouting notes, “We have allowed ourselves to become boring.” Membership was declining by an average of 11,500 young people a year. At that rate, the movement would have no members at all by 2017. One Action Plan objective was to double enrolment over five years. Aggressive recruiting has begun turning the tide, with more young people joining than dropping out for the first time in 30 years. Other priorities include making scouting relevant to today’s youth. “Yes, we have a focus on outdoor activities and that works for some kids,” says Yale, “but we are adapting our programs. We’re not just teaching camping skills, we’re building confidence and character through progressive self-education.” Although admitting she had “tons to learn” about Scouts Canada, Yale says her 20 years in the public and private sectors as well as her track record as a volunteer fundraiser equip her perfectly for the job. “It calls on every one of my skills. I understand how to do business planning. Like many not-for-profits, Scouts Canada tends to grow from inside and to generate revenue from membership. I know how and when to bring in people from outside. And I know from my background as a successful fundraiser how to call on alumni and build partnerships with corporate sponsors.” Yale’s credentials are impressive. In the last decade she was awarded the Queen’s Jubilee Medal and named “Woman of the Year 2001” by the Canadian Women in Communications organization. That same year, she helped Ottawa’s United Way set a fundraising record and in 2008, she earned the United Way Community Builder Award for Volunteer of the Year. Among many honours in business, the Women’s Executive Network hailed her as one of Canada’s Most Powerful Women in 2004, 2005 and 2006, then inducted her into its hall of fame the next year. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/scouts-canada-appoints-new-ceo-with-mandate-to-build-upon-new-momentum-545458822.html https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/scouts-canada-ceo-janet-yale-resigns http://wiki.scouts.ca/en/Janet_Yale

"A fun snowball fight is a fun snowball fight." https://www.cbsnews.com/video/wisconsin-town-sets-the-record-straight-on-snowball-fight-law/

In my experience, scouts may be somewhat involved with the troop program budget and the equipment budget (e.g., quartermaster requests or scouts already have our own tents). The PLC plans the activities for the program year and then there is some thrifty back and forth with the Troop Committee as to what is feasible. The thrifty back and forth involves networking for bargains (e.g. stay at someone's cabin, borrow tents), fundraisers needed, dues, etc. Some units prefer pay as you go while others prefer fundraisers to have a cash on hand to fund the coming year. In the former, a scout pays his/her expenses for activities, gear, and awards and a share of common expenses like recharter and unit gear. At the patrol level, the meal budget for an outing is scout run. My $0.01 for rambling.

Peace on Earth .

Good point. The difference in council mindsets between then and now.

OLD TOWN, Maine — When a fire ripped through several downtown buildings earlier this year, the destruction affected more than just the people whose homes burned down or the business owners who lost their investments. It also touched the members of Boy Scout Troop 76, who were just starting to learn about emergency preparedness when the fire broke out. Ironically, the troop members found themselves ill-prepared to handle the devastating aftermath. That’s when it occurred to Troop Leader Chris Kelly to introduce a hands-on activity to teach the boys about emergency preparedness by collecting donations for people who survive fires or natural disasters. More at source https://bangordailynews.com/2019/12/24/news/bangor/in-wake-of-downtown-old-town-fire-local-boy-scouts-help-those-affected-by-disaster/

A puzzling discussion, as if freedom to explore 100+ merit badge topic areas and associate with adult experts was contrary to aims of Scouting. What of those scouts who earn elective merit badges and have no interest in rank advancement as they find some of those required merit badges a waste of time and money? I have a few of those, they have found their joy in scouting. My older son was one. He didn't earn Eagle or even Star, so what, the aims of Scouting were more than fulfilled with him without the Advancement Method. In my misspent youth in Scouting, I earned Woodwork, Chemistry, Home Repairs (should be required), Metalwork, Metallurgy, Marksmanship, Archery, Electricity, Electronics (first year offered), Atomic Energy (no I'm not that guy), Geology, Coin Collecting, Stamp Collecting (don't judge). None of these were earned at summer camp or Merit badge universities, rather MBC home, front porch, garage, sportsman club, or place of business over 3-6 meetings. Later, one of these counselors, wrote a college recommendation for me. The number is not 8 but 18, as in age 18. My $0.02,

I am still wondering who knew about this and when. Looking at our Federal Charter, hmmm, the entire BSA National Executive Board has 72 to 76 members, 2/3's would be 48 or more consenting? Sec. 30904 Powers General. - The corporation may - adopt and amend bylaws and regulations, including regulations for the election of associates and successors; adopt and alter a corporate seal; have offices and conduct its activities in the District of Columbia and the States, territories, and possessions of the United States; acquire and own property as necessary to carry out the purposes of the corporation; sue and be sued within the jurisdiction of the United States; and do any other act necessary to carry out this chapter and promote the purpose of the corporation. Limitations on Exercising Certain Powers. - The corporation may execute mortgages and liens on the property of the corporation only if approved by a two-thirds vote of the entire executive board at a meeting called for that purpose. The corporation may dispose in any manner of the whole property of the corporation only with the written consent and affirmative vote of a majority of the members of the corporation.

December, 1910: Wilhelm Bjerregaard read "If you want to be a Scout, you go and make up a patrol and go out scouting.” from a book given to him by his brother that Christmas. In the new year , Wilhelm became a scout. Years later, he would restore Scouting by teaching scouts with his books how to make up a patrol. In the coming year, may all scouts make up their patrols and go out scouting. ~ The moderators of scouter.com https://www.nytimes.com/1979/02/04/archives/new-jersey-pages-a-work-of-love-for-boy-scout-78.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hillcourt https://web.archive.org/web/20080225035616/http:/www.scouter.com/features/0290.asp

You are fracking me up.

I dunno, Woodbadge? IMO, Council should have clothed a velociraptor instead of a plant eater. My $0.02,

For the second time in less than a year, the Black Hills Area Council Boy Scouts of America has been the victim of a burglary. "What they stole is probably worth a few thousand dollars," he said. "But the value to our organization is much greater." Davis said some supporters had offered to make donations, which will help, but getting the stolen items back would be far more beneficial to the group. The items taken when the security locks were cut off of the storage shed behind their headquarters at 144 North St. included the uniforms they use on dinosaurs in front of Sinclair gas stations to increase interest in scouting each September along with custom-made table toppers that they use for banquets and other functions. https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/boy-scouts-robbed-for-second-time-this-year/article_57050dab-f33e-5bc4-829b-6537063d97bb.html

@Cburkhardt , source link please. Does 150,000 include the previously enrolled female scouts in Venture Crews and Sea Scouts?

Update 12/18/19: A jury of seven men and five women has convicted Thomas Murphy, 60, accused of driving drunk and killing a Boy Scout on Long Island last year. He was found guilty on all nine counts. He was charged with two counts of aggravated vehicular homicide, second-degree manslaughter, second-degree assault, two counts of second-degree vehicular assault, two counts of third-degree assault and reckless driving. Murphy faces 8 1/3 to 25 years in prison. "This was a completely unnecessary process for us to have to go through, a million times worse," mom Alisa McMorris said. The process was made that much more difficult because Murphy passed up a plea agreement, which guaranteed the painful trial. "He backed out," Suffolk County District Attorney Timothy Sini said. "That's the kind of person he is." His defense unsuccessfully attempted to argue that the Boy Scouts weren't supervised properly that day and were not walking on the side of the road when Murphy swerved into them. Defense attorney Steven Politi vowed to appeal the verdict, potentially dragging on the family's agony longer. "This is the very beginning," Politi said. "And we'll be appealing all of them." The family says they are haunted by Murphy's lack of accountability and what became a quest for justice. ... https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/news/jury-convicts-thomas-murphy-in-boy-scouts-death https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/jury-finds-dwi-driver-who-killed-ny-boy-scout-guilty/2243491/ https://abc7ny.com/man-who-ran-down-boy-scout-while-drunk-convicted-on-all-counts/5766121/

I looked into this. I found some surprises - the National Flagship came from BoatUS, an outside group, and uses JTE albeit as an initial qualifier. Hmm, I like troop drills, competitions, Troop Scribe keeping a Troop Log... a rising tide lifts all boats. https://seascout.org/national-flagship/

I agree with @Eagledad earlier comment about fudging numbers, so imaginary numbers might be another mathematical characteristic. 😃

This raises the controversial question , what is "regular coffee".

IMHO, if the BSA goes Chapter 11, the BSA appointing an outside, "responsible person" * as CEO (CSE) will not fly. Following the Bankruptcy Code, a court will appoint an independent Chapter 11 trustee. This may explain the year-long "considering bankruptcy", BSA executives are trying to maintain control (organization destiny and their jobs) during bankruptcy. All companies want to do this, but ... You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime you find. You get what you need. * Who is Responsible here? "Responsible Persons" in Chapter 11 Cases https://www.justice.gov/archive/ust/articles/docs/2008/abi_200805.pdf My $0.02,

But they are marketing Family Adventure Camps. ..How will you Philmont? https://scoutingmagazine.org/2019/12/philmonts-family-adventure-camp-lets-everybody-in-on-the-fun/ P.S. Pawning Philmont does not appear on article "A Philmont Timeline".

Update 12/16/19: The 22-year-old Wisconsin man charged in the hit and run that killed three Girl Scouts and a mother was found guilty after pleading no contest in Chippewa County Court Monday. He will be sentenced in March. https://www.nbc15.com/video?vid=566262252

IMO, this would make a great commercial for the time of year and time of need. Might help boost morale and get some people thinking. Scouts singing with Salvation Army Scouts sending cards and packages to those serving and protecting us while away from their families Scouts helping with Wreaths Across America Scouts collecting toys for Marine's Toy for Tots Scouts selling and recycling Christmas trees. Even Scouts working in Santa's workshop. https://www.newsherald.com/news/20191214/boy-scouts-help-build-bikes-for-salvage-santa It just would not be Christmas without Scouting. My $0.02,

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