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I split the Eagle brand discussion to here from the old, now locked, Chapter 11 - announced topic. RS @MattR @John-in-KC

I moved the last 20 hours of bankruptcy related content from Chapter 11 - announced which is now locked to start this new topic. Please stay on topic. Thanks, RS @MattR @John-in-KC

This loooong topic which became impossible to navigate during the big slow is now locked , however the Chapter 11 discussion continues in new topic Also, the recent embedded Eagle discussion now has its own separate topic RS

Thanks to Terry and his admins!

Agree, the Debtor and Victims Groups are too far apart on a "plan", but we now have a proposed individual claim from both sides - $6000 vs $811,215 So much money and time wasted, so little progress! Remember the BSA first hired Sidney Austin back in Dec, 2018 to develop the first reorg plan (Feb, 2020). Yeh, blame it on covid. Some random Saturday thoughts. Maybe the Judge will rule: - that Local Councils are independent business entities (as BSA states) and remove them (and their assets) entirely from the BSA bankruptcy case. The bankruptcy case simplifies (?) to Debtor, insurers, and creditors (of which victims who choose? are part). - which National assets are restricted if any. Perhaps the US Trustee can arbitrate a individual claim structure and derive a total for Victim's trust to be funded by National and insurers. My $0.01,

We, the members of scouter.com, include scouts as well as scouters. The content is public, the link has been published, and IMHO the decision to view should be left to the individual member. Legally aren't these numbers criminal allegations? How many were criminal convictions? Those were my thoughts in moderating that post. RS

@ThenNow, I deliberately did not post the explicit abuse categories from the Court document on this scout forum. For those interested, I previously provided the link and page number (above). It is publicly available. Upon reflection I should have provided a content warning. RS @MattR @John-in-KC

"FOUNTAIN COUNTY, INDIANA — Boy Scout Crew 272 will be conducting an American Red Cross lifeguard certification program starting April 9 and lifeguard re-certification program starting on May 1 at Fountain Central High School. The lifeguard program runs three evenings a week 5-9 p.m., for four weeks, according to information provided." http://crew272.org/lifeguard-training/

Venture Crew 272 will be conducting an American Red Cross lifeguard certification program which includes CPR/AED for the Professional Rescuer and First Aid training, as well as a final skill and written tests. All participants must be at least 15 years of age by May 2, 2021 and able to complete a pre-course swimming test including a 300 yard swim of front crawl and breaststroke, a timed test of swimming to the deep end to pick up a brick off the bottom of the pool, and treading water for two minutes without the use of your hands. Brian Walker, Crew 272’s Advisor, and Red Cross Lifeguard Instructor for the program’s past 15 years said, “There are fewer and fewer opportunities for kids to get lifeguard training. We have kids and adults from five counties and even kids from Illinois attend the program. Red Cross Lifeguard training gives kids valuable life skills, and opens the door to a first job of great responsibility. Past guards have found jobs working at local towns, church camp, state park, university and college pools. The group will be following Covid-19 guidelines, including temperature checks before each class, seperation, and fixed teams. Things will be opening up as everyone is vaccinated (the instructor is), lifeguards will be in demand.” http://crew272.org/lifeguard-training/ "Many high schools will award an Elective PE credit (check with your high school guidance counselor) for the successful completion of the lifeguard program. Lifeguarding is a rewarding summer job, and guards are in high demand. Guards can chose from Indoor or outdoor work, hours are often flexible, and the pay is good too." https://www.newsbug.info/wcinews/boy-scout-crew-272-to-conduct-red-cross-lifeguard-certification-program/article_e9a0fa78-06a1-5d70-80ef-b22c9e8a8874.html Scout Salute, like the Crew 272 mission and website... "Go forth boldly in the direction of your dreams; live the life you've imagined."

THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF TORT CLAIMANTS’ OBJECTION TO DEBTORS’ THIRD MOTION FOR ENTRY OF AN ORDER EXTENDING THE DEBTORS’ EXCLUSIVE PERIODS TO FILE A CHAPTER 11 PLAN AND SOLICIT ACCEPTANCES THEREOF excerpts: More than a year into the chapter 11 cases, the Debtors are unable to propose a confirmable plan. Their plan proposes an inadequate contribution by 253 non-debtor Local Councils and thousands of Chartered Organizations seeking non-consensual third-party releases of 84,000 childhood sexual abuse claims. The non-consensual releases and the channeling of those claims to a trust will effectively discharge the Local Councils and Chartered Organizations over the objection of thousands of men. The time has come to end the Debtors’ plan exclusivity and allow the Tort Claimants’ Committee to file its own plan that allows the Debtors to reorganize without a fire-sale intra-family settlement with the Local Councils and Chartered Organizations The Boy Scout’s current child protection protocols have been in place since the mid-1990s and the Boy Scouts do not propose revising or updating its child protection protocols even though more than 11,000 of the 84,000 childhood sexual abuse claims arose after the mid-1990s. The Boy Scouts, Local Councils, and Chartered Organizations simply are not providing adequate compensation. In a settlement offer to the Boy Scouts, the Tort Claimants’ Committee estimated the value of the filed claims based on different types of childhood sexual abuse as follows: (page 2, an itemized chart of type of abuse, claim estimate, number of cases...) ...the claim amounts above yield an average claim value of $811,215, which likely is low Second, counting each claim as a single act of abuse is an extremely conservative view of the 84,000 claims. more objections and points The Tort Claimants’ Committee intends to file its own plan of reorganization. To the greatest extent possible, the plan will mirror substantially the Debtor’s plan as to treatment of creditors other than Abuse Claimants. As to Abuse Claimants, perhaps the most salient change will be the absence of any non-consensual third party releases for the Local Councils and Chartered Organizations. The plan will allow for releases and a channeling injunction to be negotiated by the Tort Claimants’ Committee or the post-confirmation settlement trust but not for the relatively paltry sum offered by the Local Councils. Under the Tort Claimants’ Committee’s plan, the Boy Scouts are afforded the opportunity to pursue their mission. They will be reorganized as an ongoing financially feasible entity within the parameters of the 5-year business plan that they have submitted. https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/884771_2506.pdf

State Operating Guidance for Summer 2021 (Overnight and Day Camps) https://www.acacamps.org/resource-library/public-policy/state-operating-guidance-summer-2021?utm_campaign=SocialMetrics&utm_content=1615989575&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Delivered virtually. I do not know if a video is available but here is two page report. There is no explanation of membership reduction or mention of the Chapter 11 bankruptcy. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/03/RTTN_8.5x11.pdf

Some questions after 15 years. Which study recommendations were tried? Were they successful? How have these Diverse Markets changed?

As stated, the opinions article was written by two Anthony Wayne Area Council staffers: Tammy Taylor, Director of Development, and Phil Ferguson, Summit District Executive with references to a 2006 study "Reaching the Next Multicultural Generation" by New American Dimensions. I found the following: Powerpoint Presentation of study https://slideplayer.com/slide/14893104/ Successful Marketing: Tapping into Diverse Markets (pdf) In 2006, two studies show how Scouting can meet the needs of diverse communities. The first study, Reaching the Next Multicultural Generation, conducted by New American Dimensions, includes the findings from focus groups with African American, Asian, and Hispanic/Latino parents and youth. Twenty-five focus groups were held in Los Angeles, Houston, Chicago, and New York https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/02-1066.pdf

Rapid Testing for Summer Camps - Texas March 30, 2021: Gov. Abbott announced he’s teaming up the Texas Division of Emergency Management to create a COVID-19 rapid testing program for Texas youth summer camps. First in line was Circle Ten Council Scout Executive Sam Thompson. "We have already made an application to the state to acquire some of those rapid tests," he said. The Department of State Health Services also announced revised health recommendations this month for upcoming summer camps. For Thompson, to keep his doors open, his camps will remain socially distant and at 50% capacity. But he says he’s ready for his shipment of antigen tests to arrive. "One more layer of protection to keep calm and scout on," Thompson said. More at source: https://www.fox4news.com/news/state-to-offer-rapid-covid-19-testing-programs-for-youth-summer-camps

“We (Gustin family) ask once again that the council judiciously consider not selling Camp Gustin and that the council look elsewhere for financial securities to support the grossly sexual scandals that have resulted in BSA bankruptcy matters,” Thompson wrote. Back in 2010, when selling Camp Gustin was first debated, the Gustin family got the advice of an Auburn attorney that “the language in the deed appears to be language of a ‘condition subsequent,’ which means that if breached, the heirs of the grantor have the right to take the premises back,” she said. “However, it’s not our families’ desire to take possession of the land but to keep Camp Gustin as its original full intention to be used as a campsite and for camping by the Boy Scouts as stated in our grandfather’s deed.” More at source: https://www.sunjournal.com/2021/03/29/gustin-family-urging-boy-scouts-not-to-sell-sabattuss-camp-gustin/

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Curious if the ScoutStore was selling on Amazon, I clicked on an ad for Amazon Boy Scout Gear. It wasn't, still some sellers labelled their products "Boy Scout Compass", "Boy Scout tent" , "Boy Scout Uniform",.... Hmmm

PA scout, Christian Snouffer will be awarded the William T, Hornaday Silver Medal ; he was just one of "seven Scouts in the nation to receive the award in 2020". “I was really happy that all my hard work paid off,” Christian said. “It took me about two years to get it.” Christian previously earned these state conservation awards: the Pennsylvania Wildlife Conservation Award, the Pennsylvania Forest Conservation Award and the Pennsylvania Fish & Boat Commission Conservation Award. https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/28/13-year-old-life-scout-yoe-wins-national-award-environmental-projects/6981413002/

We often tell the new Scout that the square knot symbolizes joining and call it the "joining knot", later the Second Class Scout learns the sheet bend is the "joining knot". I like @The Latin Scot knot symbolizations - the bowline as the "rescue knot", maybe tautline hitch for camp repair service, timber hitch for trail service,.... ...symbolism follows function...and all of a sudden the Knots become fun again. Another $0.01,

USC ‘s $1.1-Billion Payout The settlement will be paid in two installments, in August 2021 and August 2022, the lawyers said. The university plans to pay out the settlement "largely through a combination of litigation reserves, insurance proceeds, deferred capital spending, sale of non-essential assets, and careful management of non-essential expenses," USC President Carol L. Folt said in a letter to the school community. "No philanthropic gifts, endowment funds, or tuition will be redirected from their intended purposes," she said. https://abcnews.go.com/US/breaking-university-southern-californias-11-billion-sex-abuse/story?id=76713012 https://about.usc.edu/files/2020/07/USC-2019-Annual-ReportFINAL.pdf

...maybe a Gordian knot for being a Popcorn Kernel, or running a PIneWood Derby, or running a District Camporee, or ...

...from grey-beard to greenhorn... must be Spring. Let us not get ourselves tied up in knots. Speaking of "Knots", why not other knots besides square and overhand? My $0.01,

Scouters recite the same Scout Oath.

Unsettling phrases "all that was legally required", "moral obligation to contribute" ... just doesn't seem the phrases scouts or scouters would use when "helping other people..." My $0.01