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Not hackers breaking into computers but kids with adult mentors USING tools, woodworking, robot-building,...Badges but no uniforms. Inclusive. Membership 32,000 nationwide. Website https://diy.org/ Probably more hands-on than our survey STEM merit badges? News Story from NPR http://www.npr.org/2012/12/23/167285991/with-growth-of-hacker-scouting-more-kids-learn-to-tinker Geek Scouts and Maker Scouts are similar but not nationwide,...yet. http://www.geek-scouts.org/ http://makerscouts.org/ Maker Scouts is a burgeoning group looking to build a next generation scouting organization. Our main drive is bringing modern science, technology, engineering, art, and math to children outside of a school environment. Maker Scouts seeks to foster a well socialized, moral, and tech savvy generation of boys and girls. This is getting interesting. Another $0.02,

Sorry, I forgot. Checking the Fieldbook..."Lead by example"? ..."often mistaken for rabbit scat by Tenderfoot scouts"...must be somewhere else in here...

Yes as does mercury, arsenic, E.coli,... The issue is where and concentration level.

I dunno, great question. We had fist fights not gun fights back then. Fist fights on the bus, in school, in the neighborhood, at scouts, everywhere except church where the nuns hit us Anger needs an outlet or a quick release? Another $0.02,

I would say something like Many current and past scouters and scouts are working at the local level to make scouting more inclusive...to reach all boys interested in being a scout. I would mention units that have stated on their websites their policy of inclusion and where that inclusion has grown to their councils. In some cases these inclusion policies have been in place for years. Mention Mount Diablo-Silverado Council approved a gay Scouts Eagle application and sent it to National. Mention that two National Board members support a policy change and one of those two is line to be National Executive Board president in 2014. Major corporate supporters have withdrawn financial support as have individual supporters. Change is coming from the bottom up and the outside in. Slow, but it is coming. My $0.02, hope this helps(This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

I was out on openin' day of waterfowl season this fall. I wish we could ban semi-automatic shotguns just so some fellows would learn how to shoot. By the time you've lit off your 5th round, it's time to admit that yeh missed the dang thing and should stop sprayin' lead in a big arc heedless of what's around yeh. Contact the game warden. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has banned lead shot for waterfowl hunting nationwide since 1991. There's been several studies both pre and post ban about use of lead shot. I am not a hunter, but I discuss the environmental effects of lead in Environmental Science Merit Badge.

So you are selling your Glock?

Beavah you missed the point. The certain reimbursement for the impressment of your horse, etc. after the war as you would expect if owning a horse was your Constitutional right; that reimbursement was not there. So I doubt, our pragmatic Founding Fathers would have considered owning a horse a right, with all the other bills to be paid. During WW2 via a FDR executive order, our government impressed Japanese Americans into internment camps for up to three years. The Constitutional rights of these Americans had been violated and in 1988, a $1.6 billion reparation program was set up. Post 9/11 "reasonable regulation"? More like regulation gone wild. Good to see, the TSA are finally removing those "reasonable" X-ray scanners, maybe "reasonable" groping will be next to go?(This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

...the investigation is in progress which I hope includes a drug test, mental health background check, motive determination, gun ownership,...

but do yeh think da Founding Fathers would have considered horses a right? That if yeh owned a horse, the government could stop you from using it or take it away? Doubt it, because like the British, the Continental Congress and Continental Army were documented horse thieves. "On 4 November 1775 the Continental Congress recommended that the legislatures of the New England states empower Washington to impress wagons, horses, vessels, and other necessities for the transportation or march of his army. This power was to be delegated to the Quartermaster General.37 Subsequently, Washington was authorized to impress goods and services in numerous emergencies. Clearly, Congress believed that an emergency justified the use of impressment. It later urged that in the use of impressment every possible attention be paid to the laws of the states and the rights of individuals. When military operations became centered in the Middle Department and impressment was resorted to with increasing frequency, Congress requested the states to pass laws authorizing and regulating impressment by the Continental Army." http://www.history.army.mil/books/RevWar/risch/chpt-1.htm In some cases the "impressed" goods were returned. Our new government was short on funds and deep in bills to contractors and soldiers which took a higher priority than reimbursing citizens; there were also differences over appraised values. I wonder if the New Jersey owner got his Durham boats back or was reimbursed by Washington? Impressment of horses continued in the War of 1812, War Between the States,... So no right to own/operate a horse, carriage, or car. The Constitution recognizes the right of freedom of travel* but there are no rights regarding the means, many are regulated. You cannot walk, bike, or horseback along many interstates. You cannot freely operate a car - you must have a license, registration, current inspection, insurance, ... *Post 9/11, I am not so sure about our right of freedom of travel.

I dislike speakers using backdrops of American flags (just one please, not 30), kids, troops, policemen,... The speaker and his speech should be able to stand without props. However, I do enjoy the rare occasion when someone is asleep in that backdrop. One backdrop that I would like to see is a stack of money, as in "Today I propose ... and here's the money to pay for it." My $0.02,

I give the ARRL credit in trying to interest our iPhone, Facebook youth in amateur radio. Last year, the ARRL helped the BSA released the Morse Code Interpreter strip (above left pocket) and this year the new Amateur Radio Operator strip (right sleeve) for any scout or scouter who holds a valid FCC-issued Amateur Radio license. http://www.arrl.org/news/bsa-to-offer-amateur-radio-operator-rating-strip More impressive than OMGWTF Internet Acronym Interpreter or Facebook Friend strips. I made that up as a joke, those don't exist do they?

As to what "arms" we can bear, look at Supreme Court decision District of Columbia v. Heller - "This Second Amendment rights case was brought by a group of libertarian lawyers on behalf of plaintiffs with respectable backgrounds and appealing reasons for seeking relief from the District of Columbias extremely restrictive gun control regulations. The challenged statute prohibited the possession of a handgun by almost all D.C. residents, and required that all firearms be kept in an inoperable condition. This effort to disarm the citizenry had been in place for over 30 years, and was the most restrictive gun-control law in the country. By a vote of 5-4, the Court held that both the handgun ban and the safe-storage regulation violated the Second Amendment, which protects at least the right to keep a handgun in ones own home and to make it operable for purposes of immediate self defense." The Second Amendment, Heller, and Originalist Jurisprudence Nelson Lund, George Mason Univ Justice Scalia concluded: The (D.C.) handgun ban amounts to a prohibition of an entire class of arms that is overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose [viz. self defense]. The (D.C.) prohibition extends, moreover, to the home, where the need for defense of self, family, and property is most acute. Under any of the standards of scrutiny that we have applied to enumerated constitutional rights, banning from the home the most preferred firearm in the nation (BD's Glock?) to keep and use for protection of ones home and family, would fail constitutional muster. . . . So from Scalia, "arms" in the second amendment means what is now in common use in America for protection. This case was about handguns, the next case may be a about semi-automatic rifles, and maybe in two hundred years there will be a case about hand phasers. My $0.02 (This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

Boy Scout Troop 358 of Grace Baptist Church, Philadelphia return for the SECOND time to march in the Presidential Inaugural Parade this Monday January 17, 2013, Martin Luther King Day. They are the only Boy Scout troop marching in the parade, though I am sure other individual scouts are in the parade but associated with leadership, sports, and school programs. http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC2103577881001.html

Over the years, I have often heard jokes like "...the only things scouts lie about is having girlfriends" from non-scout acquaintances. "Yeah yuck, yuck, not true!" Enter Eagle Scout, Notre Dame football player, and Heisman Trophy candidate Manti Te'O with the tragic story of the death of his non-existent girlfriend Lennay Kekua. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/fenno-manti-teo-girlfriend-story-a-wild-ghost-chas/ Bizarre and why? Did he want added sympathy in hopes of winning Heisman? The good news; people and the embarrassed sports media are more interested in Lying Lance who makes Bill Clinton seem like a boy scout. Another $0.01 for still being grumpy

Annual losses were about $50K, Mount Baker Council gave the Friends of Black Mountion until Dec 31 to 1. raise $60K to cover potential losses, FoBM raise $64,560 2. Get at least 300 campers over 3 weeks, FoBM only got 251 by deadline. Fewer than 20 signed for first week. http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/01/17/2842079/boy-scout-board-cuts-summer-camp.html Just know what I read in article, but it seemed the Council focus was just on dollars and numbers and not the underlying camp summer program. I can't understand why we don't open scout summer camps to non-member boys sponsored by a troop or another scout. 4H and Y camps both allow and even recruit non-members to fill camp slots and hopefully join later. No summer camp this year, no camp next year? My $0.01 for being grumpy

Yeah M1 Garand thumb...Beretta bite too...how embarrassing.

JoeBob, You are correct the Garand takes a 8-round clip now whether politicians make any distinction between a mag and clip is another matter. Still the Garand has a bayonet lug and the state of NY says semi-auto + bayonet lug = assault weapon. I can't see my Dad grinding if off. Good luck to the state of NY against Walt Kowolski. Here's an extract of the NY Safe Act S 37. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows: 22. "Assault weapon" means (A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF THE WEAPON; (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND; (V) A BAYONET MOUNT; (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER;

OGE, you are probably correct with your good suggestions. I wonder if William Kunstler is still practicing

My guess 80% Loyalist, 20% Rebel.

Meanwhile New York passed the NY Safe Act 2013 which prohibits AR-15's just by virtue of it's pistol grip alone. Magazines are limited to 7 round capacity. Responsible NY gun owners legally owning firearms which are now labeled as assault weapons have one year to sell them to an out-of-state buyer. I doubt criminals took notice. My father's M-1 Garand (circa WW2/Korea) is now an assault weapon because it has a bayonet lug and takes a 8 round clip. Legally owned 10 round magazines have to be retro-fitted or sold in one year. Massachusetts is next in line with a similar measure. If it passes, I will have to sell the 10 round mags for my son's Boy Scout Ruger 10-22 rifle. Some of us shoot service rifle competitions to earn Distinguished Rifleman through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. That may be lost. Maybe the federal government is not taking our firearms but some states and localities are telling us to sell them or else.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/16/list-obamas-23-executive-actions-on-gun-violence/ The President is announcing that he and the Administration will: 1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system. 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. 3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. 5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun. 6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers. 7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign. 8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission). 9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. 10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. 11. Nominate an ATF director. 12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations. 13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime. 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence. 15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies. 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes. 17. Release a letter to health-care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law-enforcement authorities. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. 19. Develop model emergency-response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education. 20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental-health services that Medicaid plans must cover. 21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges. 22. Commit to finalizing mental-health-parity regulations. 23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health. IMO, some of these I scratch my head and ask why is this not already being done and why aren't heads rolling for not doing their jobs: #1, #3, #4, #5, #9 (maybe start with ATF and those firearms still missing from Fast & Furious), #10, #11 (or move ATF without a director for 6 years to FBI), #12 (I thought Homeland Security was doing this?), #13 (duh), #20 Some address conflicts with existing laws and federal orders: #2, #16, #17 Already done: #6, #19 Good idea: #7 (how about a tax deduction to buy an American-made gun safe), #8 (most legal gun locks are crap), #22 ???: #14 (I would prefer the FBI over CDC) Questionable: #15 (not hard to workaround) Good luck: #21 (Obamacare) NRA suggestion: #18 Just more talk: #23 (This message has been edited by RememberSchiff)

Spun from other thread where constitutional freedoms were being discussed. Eagle732 was thinking about becoming a Citizenship in Nation MBC. Great! Imagine Baden-Powell was born two hundred years earlier and started Scouting in 1710 in England and it quickly spread to the American Colonies. Fifty some years later, are colonial scouts remaining loyal to the Crown or are they becoming patriots fighting for their freedom? $0.02 for your thoughts

Yeah, I could see taxing the newspapers to pay for thier decision to constantly use free speech (you meant press) in irresponsible ways.. Yeah bring back the Stamp Act and King George too.

Can yeh name even one example where registration has been a precursor to confiscation in the United States? Post Katrina, New Orleans "NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 - Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers (and National Guard) began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here." http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-storm.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX1OfhckC8