RememberSchiff

... and now is allowed back in... I wonder if there is a process in place for this and how many have been allowed back in?

Seems to me too. Jambo appears to be another world where helicopter families and volunteers are tapped as revenue sources. Imagine even thinking of doing that back in our units or local camps. I think a no-charge, no-entry, distant observation point(s) would suffice. Visitors should not be mingling or interfering in the program areas with scouts and scouts who paid the $$$, did the paperwork, etc., Another $0.02

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf

I know what you mean Kahuna. Here's a scout invite from an Eagle Scout, Red Sox right-fielder Shane Victorino, "The Flying Hawaiian", which seems er, more inviting. "Victorino invited the scouts, most of them participants in the Minuteman Council’s ScoutReach initiative for inner-city boys, through the annual Flyin’ Hawaiian All-Stars Charity Ticket Program organized by his Shane Victorino Foundation, the Boy Scouts of America’s Boston Minuteman Council said in a statement." http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/east_boston/2013/07/boy_scouts_attend_red_sox_game_as_guests_of_right-fielder_sh.html

https://summit.scouting.org/en/Jamboree2013/Pages/Staff.aspx Seems Shooting Sports and other areas are still short on volunteer staff and Jambo starts in 3 days?

There is a Pistol Pilot Program which allows boy scouts to shoot handguns at participating camps. http://myhighplains.com/fulltext?nxd_id=397942 Mostly the BSA caliber, firearm restrictions are contradictory and don't apply to their own high adventure facilities.

The public is also invited during the jamboree to come onto the Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve. People will be bussed into the property from Bradley. From there, visitors can go zip lining, mingle with the scouts, and experience what the jamboree is all about. Mike Patrick, Director of Operations at the reserve, said, "Even if you're not a scout, you can come and visit the Jamboree. Any day that we are open beginning July 17 to July 24th, and all you have to do to get a ticket is go to visit www.jambo.org." Several exhibits on the property will also be open to the public. A more direct link https://summit.scouting.org/en/Jamboree2013/Pages/Visitors.aspx Story link http://www.wvva.com/story/22799753/2...-scout-reserve

More info on emergency preparations "Mike Patrick, director of operations for the Summit Bechtel Reserve, said about 800 medical volunteers will be onsite in addition to military medical support. The Scouts are hoping that the reduced average temperatures, about 12-15 degrees, of their new site will at least provide some relief. On one day at the 2005 Jamboree, the Associated Press reported that 300 people, mostly Scouts, suffered from dehydration, fatigue and lightheadedness when temperatures and humidity rose. Air support and other transportation are also readily available for Scouts who might need to be transported to a nearby hospital. An inventory of nearby supplies of anti-venom and related treatments, Patrick said, has also been taken." ... "If Scouts need to be moved, Patrick said, the transportation company contracted for the Jamboree, Transportation Management Services, is prepared. TMS was selected by the Boy Scouts due to its experience at other large events such as Super Bowls and the Olympics. Patrick said they will be handling the daily transportation, the work of hundreds of buses. On the first day alone, 800 buses are expected to arrive, one every 45 seconds, to drop off Scouts at their camp sites." From: http://www.statejournal.com/story/22756242/if-disaster-strikes-jamboree-will-boy-scouts-be-prepared

I sure hope so. http://www.scouter.com/forum/summer-camp/383903-ammo-supply#post384111 Word is getting out about the need for donations, but for now, plan B is air rifles.

Sig Sauer is donating 54 Mosquito pistols and 16 P250 pistols with BSA logo engraving, which Venturers and Boy Scouts who meet the Venturing age requirement (14–21 years old) will use in their shooting activities at National Jamboree. http://www.ammoland.com/2013/07/sig-sauer-donates-pistols-to-boy-scouts-of-america/#axzz2YTOfwxQ6 Locally, our scout camp is already out of 22 ammo.

Ah Kristian, you are an adult who expects to be treated like an adult (AMC does this), good luck with that in the BSA. I don't include include my SS#. Immunization is not what it should be. There should be an antibody verification test. I know some parents have suggested NOT to include insurance coverage so that the hospital will contact them if their child is treated. These parents are speaking from experience where the only notification they received was hours later via a cellphone call by their son! Oh, I whited-out all the non-English on my health forms which made it more readable. My $0.02

Congratulations to you both. It may seem contrary to logic, but I often receive more joy in my son's account of his adventures without me than having witnessed them myself. Parenting and scouting at work, I tell myself.

Why do are adults volunteering more often for OTHER service groups? It's EASIER. Over the years, I have been a volunteer for public and private schools, Little League, JOAD, 4-H, church, fire dept, Red Cross, local hospitals - all were a magnitude easier in training and PAPERWORK than BSA. My $0.02

My younger son's school suddenly dropped their carpentry program this spring. Distressed, I spoke with our principal Jack S. who said "That was 50's technology. We prepare our students for the 21st Century" i.e., service jobs and select professional jobs. Back in my day, even public junior and senior high schools had shop classes. Unlike vocational schools, the public school courses were survey courses. Over 3 years, I spent a semester or two in wood, metal (cold chisels!), graphic arts, engine, plumbing (threaded a lot of pipe), and electrical shops. The skills I learned and the projects I made lead to Woodworking (my shop teacher was my MBC - hand tools only, all corners had to be square!), Metalwork, Metallurgy, and Electricity merit badges. Those were some tough merit badges. Today, damn few of the public schools have trade shops, but they do having OUTING clubs and if a public school scout wants a short survey course to try a trade then maybe a merit badge is his only option. Rather ironic. My $0.02

We and our burros carried Baker tents on my Philmont trek back in old days. I had a ground cloth (shower curtain) for my sleeping bag.

"Firefighters from several area communities, representatives from four of the five participating hospitals, Lakes Region Mutual Aid dispatchers and a representative from the state participated yesterday in an assessment and review of the actions taken after the lightning strike Monday night that sent 23 Boy Scouts by ambulance to emergency rooms." http://www.laconiadailysun.com/index.php/newsx/local-news/69574-evalutation-of-lightening-strike-yesterday-at-belmont-fire-station A good, honest debrief therein as to how firefighters/EMTs/ER personnel can do better the next time. Camp Bell and Council needs to do the same. The above report needs to be attached to a public BSA incident report along with some more information 1. why scouts were under a tarp among tall trees on a hill and not evacuated down to lodge in the valley below as per camp extreme weather protocol. Who took charge at the scene (campsite) before firefighters/emts arrived? 2. were scout med forms given to triage/medical personnel 3. when did adult leaders notify parents 4. training resume of adult leaders, was that training effective Much to learn from this incident.

What about hosting a “Thank You Event?†Some of us might call it an Eagle Court of Honor. Fairly common to print a ECOH program listing waypoints on the Eagle trail, Eagle project description, thanking mentors, sponsors,etc along with photos. You get the idea.

Turns out this is National Lightning Safety Week June 23-29 http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/ When Thunder Roars, Go Indoors! Didn't know that "more than 80% of lightning fatalities are men who did not seek shelter from an approaching storm, but instead kept on fishing, boating, golfing, biking, or working outdoors." Short video http://www2.iii.org/video/beyond-thunder-dumb-when-lightning-strikes.html

Bell has its own main lodge, not as large as Hidden Valley. It appears at 1:20 into the above video. Top floor - camp director, nurses office, store, staff kitchette, gathering room/classroom (where we evacuate to for bad weather), old shower room. The latter two, I believe, were an addition to original small camp director building . There are now showers up the hill. Lodge basement is commissary (food storage, distribution) and storage. Bell's main lodge has existed in this configuration for at least 4-5 years. It gets pretty cramped during t-storms. My $0.02

Dispersed low away from tall trees might have been better, as in go to low area tents. But the day's forecast was known and Camp Bell does have a severe weather protocol to monitor weather, report warnings, and evacuate to the main lodge ahead of storms. ??? Puzzling.

Merlyn explained the background issues better than I could. Thanks. My argument is that we need public schools, etc to charter (sponsor) packs, troops, crews, so we can access those kids and families. I want to be able to setup after-school meetings (at school) for den meetings, patrols, and crews just like the Boys and Girls Club (the LARGEST youth organization has done) or the school outing clubs have done. I dearly want access to the school gyms just like I had as a scout. And yes, that means the BSA has more work ahead in opening membership. Our local school will allow any group to rent their meeting and assembly rooms, but that is not sponsorship. Another $0.01

Tarp set up among tall eastern white pines was the shelter with one of those trees struck. video shows tarp and lightning strike http://www.necn.com/06/25/13/NH-Boy-Scouts-back-at-camp-after-lightni/landing_weather.html?blockID=844849&feedID=11106 Prepared? They were very lucky. My $0.02

Interesting interview with Mike Rowe regarding education. http://www.insideedition.com/videos/1575-mike-rowe-encourages-students-to-learn-a-trade

This was NYLT at Bell. None of the injures were life-threatening; most were minor. Six of the 23 suffered "somewhat serious" burns, Fire Chief David Parenti said. Seven of the Scouts had very minor burns, he said. "All 23 of them had burns of some sort," Parenti said. "But even the six (burn victims), we worry about the chest, but they weren't burned too bad, really." http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130625/NEWS11/130629507 The Incident Reports from NYLT should have more details, hopefully with the Fire Chief's report.

Lightning strikes on NH Griswold Scout Reservation, Camp Bell. This is the NYLT week at Bell. Twenty-three Boy Scouts and three adults were transported to hospitals in Concord and Laconia...Everybody was conscious and stable. "According to fire officials, the scouts were taking shelter underneath a canopy. When the lightning hit, it somehow traveled along a piece of metal and hit the canopy." Six scouts have chest burns. https://www.wmur.com/article/23-boy-scouts-taken-to-hospital-after-lightning-strike-1/5182625 https://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/06/25/several-boy-scouts-recovering-after-lightning-strike-in-nh/ https://whdh.com/news/nh-boy-scouts-hospitalized-after-lightning-strike/ Next week, Camp Bell starts the regular summer program.