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ROCKVILLE CENTRE, Long Island (WABC) -- A troop of Boy Scouts on Long Island became the victims of a scammer who stole nearly $10,000 from their checking account. Troop 517 in Rockville Centre works hard to raise money for their trips. It took almost a year to save up nearly $10,000, but only a few seconds for someone to steal it out of the scout account at Astoria Bank. The troop leaders were shocked to see their balance wiped out by a wire transfer to another account at another bank. They learned someone scammed the scout account number and used it to pay off a credit card in Europe. The second shocker, a little-known rule; business and charity account holders have just 1 business/banking day to report fraud to their bank. Since the scouts didn't report it for weeks, their claim was denied. The scoutmasters appealed to the bank but got nowhere even the Boy Scout sponsor was losing faith. "So many people put up roadblocks and I thought it was a lost cause," Pastor David Grainson said. [Channel] 7 on your Side was prepared for the challenge, we asked Astoria [bank] to take a second look and, hopefully, reconsider. Scoutmaster, Barry Goldman gave the good news, "Today, as of today all of our money has been restored." Astoria [bank] said the generous gesture was a courtesy to the local Boy Scouts, even though the bank tried but couldn't recover their stolen funds. And they surprised [Channel 7] Nina Pineda by making her an honorary junior scoutmaster! (Hmm, first of course, she would be made an Honorary Scout ) Now the scouts have their funds to make their scheduled scout trip to Williamsburg after all. http://abc7ny.com/news/boy-scouts-need-help-after-bank-fraud/1242236/

Almost, BOTH involve picking up trash dumped by said "others" in the community, but only ONE group IS UNIFORMED. The inmates wear orange jumpsuits, so the two service groups are easily distinguishable.

My meaning of neighborhood was "local" to scout so as there is a rather direct benefit to "scout" and his family. Clearing the fire hydrant across the street benefits your neighborhood and the scout. A neighborhood is usually a small subset of a community. I suppose if your town is so small that the neighborhood is the town, maybe the scout is a Lone Scout? Anyway semantics aside, I want my scouts to start thinking outside of their neighborhoods towards the needs of their community, then nation, and world.

A service project should teach citizenship, i.e.,what we as scouts can do for our community. There's a difference between being a good neighbor and being a good citizen. Doing a Good Turn ("does not provide a benefit to the general public"} in a Private Community where YOU live is being a good neighbor. Shoveling out the fire hydrant on your street is being a good neighbor. Doing a Good Turn for your Whole Community is being a good citizen and more in the scout spirit of helping others. Put another way, as SM/ASM, I and anyone else should be able to go see the finished work and perhaps benefit. I don't want to visit And the sign said, Anybody caught trespassin' would be shot on sight http://www.yccbsa.org/OrgHeaders/406/Service%20Project%20Guidelines.pdf

No. It would be akin to a scout picking up trash in his backyard. Try raking and cleaning up a community park or school. You might connect with a local garden club and do some planting. Earth Day is a couple of weeks away. Hope this helps.

Can wind up with gastric distress. An adult planned a culinary surprise on a recent outing. All he would say was it would be made only from raw ingredients using a dutch oven. The rest of us focused elsewhere so as not to spoil his surprise. Well SURPRISE he didn't make it to lunch. He had abdominal pain and nausea. He mentioned he had coffee. a powerbar, and a few beans at breakfast. What beans? Friday night, he emptied a bag of raw kidney beans into a dutch oven and added water to soak beans overnite. The next morning he sampled some beans before adding more water and placing the oven on some coals. He skipped rinsing beans before soaking and draining and rinsing beans after soaking and before cooking. So he ate raw beans, raw kidney beans, and learned the hard way that beans must be cooked before consuming! Here's a link to explain food poisoning caused by lectin in beans. Kidney beans are particularly bad. He was rather lucky. http://chemistry.about.com/b/2014/02/05/hemagglutinin-and-food-poisoning-from-beans.htm Beans are not the magical fruit that we sing praises. They need to be cooked.

I don't see a problem with either. I found no specification as who the adults have to be. Now, there have been issues with high school graduation service projects being framed as Eagle projects. Locally the powers that be follow the old "nod and a wink and don't make a stink". Like Stosh, I mostly lean on a shovel but I watch like a hawk for safety concerns and I occasionally run interference on some adults.

I hope the striked (by me) sentence has finally disappeared! The Eagle Scout service project provides the opportunity for the Eagle Scout candidate to demonstrate the leadership skills he has learned in Scouting. He does the project outside the sphere of Scouting.

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Scouts have died on campouts, canoe trips, hikes, tree falls, swimming.... We learn from mistakes, educate and train ourselves to be prepared for the risks that life presents. What is the current marketing slogan Prepared for Life? Or it that BS? It is tragic that a scout died falling off a ladder, in whitewater rapids, from self-afflicted gunshot wounds, screwing around with hand sanitizer, lightning strike. But many, many more scouts were taught by adults how to safely face those risks, how to setup a work area, properly use materials and tools, and first aid. Sure it is safer to opt-out of every new challenge; let someone else lead the path for the wagon train west, explore Antarctica, or go to the Moon. Those someones used to be called scouts. My $0.02

Doesn't apply, any more than Child Labor daily/weekly time limits apply to school extracurricular activities. No one is doing these tasks as a requirement of employment. My sons also remove/install screens and recaulk windows while up on ladders. Teach boys to work safely and to safely use tools.

"New for 2016, the Cradle of Liberty Council will be offering the opportunity for units to apply for membership grants to support unit recruitment and retention efforts." Cub Scout packs, Boy Scout troops, Varsity Scout teams, Venturing crews, and Sea Scout ships are eligible to apply through their unit leader (Cubmaster, Scoutmaster, coach, advisor, or skipper) and unit committee chair. Grants are to assist with expenses related to membership that might not otherwise qualify for financial assistance. Projects must have measurable outcomes. Units that have their grant applications approved by the council membership committee will be awarded a maximum of $500 per year. More conditions here. https://www.colbsa.org/rocket-into-scouting/membership/membership-grants.html Are other councils offering this financial help?

With my permission, my 16 yr old did the same project (but different beneficiary) by himself for school graduation service hours. It's the BSA, not the state, school, or church that is the nancy here.

Yeah 60/70's. The main emphasis was it was YOUR project start to finish. You were not helping with some existing service. There was no template, workbook, advisor nor was there any need. As desertrat77 stated, paperwork was minimal but your paper had to be neat and legible. There was no requirement that you lead others, the labor could be performed by the scout himself. Your service to the community and your work ethic were key. With permission, I used power tools on site just as I did at home and school. Job site preparation, safety, and cleanup were questions asked at my board. Adult labor was minimal as in driving. P.S. I forgot, I also used ladders. I doubt my project would be approved today. Too many no-no's.

This. Fundraising? No, you EARNED money from your own labor, not selling crap, or begging in front of stores or online. Shoveling snow, mowing lawns, raking leaves, paper routes, painting,..So now you had some dollars in YOUR savings account at the town bank and it even earned interest back then. Hmmm what HELPFUL Eagle project could I do with x dollars out of my savings account? THRIFTY. Then the planning began, keep it within your budget or try something else. No Eagle Advisor as by now you should have the know-how having planned hikes and campouts. Schedule, purchase materials, recruit help if needed, get er done. It was more similar to your Dad's weekend DIY home project albeit for the community than the government-like Eagle projects today. Simple, thrifty, and your own Eagle project. My $0.01

So we did have "Honorary Scouts" but it was stopped after 18 were selected? I wonder if Lindbergh, the 18th honoree, became a controversial choice?

I found this website about adult eagle scouts. I thought that practice ended in the 50's but apparently not if this information is correct http://www.adulteaglescout.com/ http://www.adulteaglescout.com/Adult_Eagles/Full_List.htm

Now older and perhaps wiser, I am more thrifty with my time left. No excuses, no drama. Waste my time and I invest it elsewhere. My family, dog, and BP (blood pressure not Baden-Powell) agree.

Thanks for the feedback. For "Honorary scout", my thought was to honor those who act like scouts though they had not been scouts. So rather than correct the public/internet perception that "John Glenn was a Scout", let's make him a Scout, an honorary one. Win-Win. North Star, Silver Buffalo, OA..are different critters. Yeah "Honorary Eagle Scout" may not work. I was thinking this would be for former scouts who did not earn Eagle but whose life was "an Eagle trail". I was thinking Walter Cronkite, Harrison Ford (he often mentions scouting and has rescued scouts!), Bill Gates Jr. for his non-Microsoft philanthropy. There would likely be controversy over some choices.

Agreed, neither of us would. There is no precedent set I am aware anyway. I have seen projects approved here that would not have been approved ten years ago and vice versa. Projects that would were approved in other councils that would be turned down here and likley again vice versa. Experienced scouters have mostly understood this is the way of life and it may be or seem unfair. One umpire might call a way outside pitch a strike while another knew the strike zone. I had my first Eagle project turned down, so I regrouped and did something different (Plan B) even though other scouts had received approval for the same idea earlier from a differently constituted Advancement Committee. But today, this life lesson seems to be getting lost, well at least around here. I am sure Googling, social media, parenting styles are part culprits but I have not found relevant guidance in the program literature for the those claiming unfairness in this regard. I was looking for a statement such as the following but have not found it yet. I was hoping others might direct. Your project may be rejected even though the same or similar project may have been accepted earlier by your troop, beneficiary, or council or other troops, beneficiaries, and councils. Accept their feedback and try again.

Not every. "Honorary" doesn't bother me, production milled Eagles do.

If Eagle Scout Service Project X is approved by Council/District Advancement Committee A does that set a precedent for that council A? for all councils? I am seeing more "lawyering" when Eagle projects are proposed and less resistance by our Advancement Committee.

Read about an Eagle Scout project and that this scout would soon join an Eagle Fraternity that includes (Microsoft) Bill Gates. Another story mentioned that Indiana Jones a.k.a. Harrison Ford was an Eagle Scout. And John Glenn was many things, but like James Kirk he was never a Boy Scout. These are common misconceptions by the media and public but why not "fix" the problem in a "courteous" Win-Win way? Does the BSA bestow Honorary Scout? Honorary Eagle Scout? I know there is the Silver Buffalo award, but that is recognition of service to Scouting. Honor the mislabeled famous and honor those less famous citizens who act like scouts. Recognize the "Good Deeds" of others towards others. Let National honor the mislabeled and worthy famous and councils honor the local citizens. The Utah vice principal who took a CPR class (Be Prepared) and two days later saved a 9th grader whose heart stopped. The Gainesville,FL policemen who responded to a complaint of "loud" teens playing basketball by joining. If he wasn't a scout, he is now. Also award "Honorary Scout" to the unknown passerby who stopped to ... after all an unknown passerby helped an American businessman who was lost in the English fog . My $0.02,

Hopefully, this program will help raise 2017 Jamboree scout attendance.

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/n/2016/03/21/wvu-boy-scouts-team-up-to-develop-stem-program-at-summit-bechtel-reserve March 21,2016 ... An interdisciplinary team of researchers from West Virginia University will join with the Boy Scouts of America to establish an environmental science, technology, engineering, and math education and research program at Bechtel Summit Reserve near Oak Hill. The team from WVU’s Davis College of Agriculture, Natural Resources and Design and the Eberly College of Arts and Sciences will introduce scouts and their adult leaders to the environmental STEM field, particularly the aquatic sciences, while using the site as an ecology observatory and laboratory, said Paul Ziemkiewicz, director of the West Virginia Water Research Institute. ... Through the program, scouts will earn merit badges while learning about ecology, biology, water science, wildlife and wetlands. Scouts will receive hands-on training through taking measurements, entering data and plotting simple graphs to see the results. ... Federal funding of this project is provided through the U.S. Geological Survey’s section 104b program. The USGS awards 104b grants to State Water Research Institutes that have been established in each of the 50 states, three U.S. territories and the District of Columbia under the provisions of the Water Resources Research Act of 1984. The West Virginia Water Research Institute, a program of WVU’s National Research Center for Coal and Energy, serves as a statewide vehicle for performing research related to water issues. WVWRI is the premiere water research center in West Virginia and, within selected fields, an international leader.