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I'm baffled. 1. The SM/ASM required training appears glaring incomplete both from an official/legal and an outdoors/adventure standpoint. 2. Course duration appears so short as to question content and usefulness. Trained for what exactly? My $0.02,

6/10/25 Update article written by Eagle John Shell: “There are no fish here,” one of the Boy Scouts in our group said, looking disappointed. I glanced out at the water. He was right. We were in Orange Beach, Alabama, for a January campout. Nine Scouts from Troop 147 and their parents had come here because it was supposed to be good for fishing. I was 16 at the time and was one of the oldest kids in the group. In the end, all the equipment we had bought, all the research we had done looking for places to fish—none of it panned out. I was lucky enough to grow up with a dad who knew where great fishing spots were, and I am grateful every day for those experiences. But for these kids and their parents, the best spots no longer held the amount of fish they used to. I wanted to do something about it... Continued at source: https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2-summer/treehugger/eagle-reef-fish-populations-were-disappearing-alabama-boy-scout-did-something-about Find out how you can support the Eagle Reef project at theeaglereef.com.

Our manufacturer launch rods were often bent and pads flimsy so we created our own.

Organized by branch and position with course numbers, names, and time length https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Position-Trained-Requirements-Jun2025.pdf Note Youth Protection Training (YPT) has been replaced with Safeguarding Youth Protection (SYT). https://www.scouting.org/training/youth-protection/

Ugh. Where? Remember, not so long ago, when the Guide To Safe Scouting was available as a freely downloadable PDF which one could easily SEARCH, PRINT, HIGHLIGHT? Instead now we have an online version which is extremely difficult to search. Very tedious. Let's go back to a downloadable PDF with release date and version number clearly printed (BOLD, LARGE FONT) on cover and each page footnote and the National download page clearly showing current release date and version number. P.S. Okay I did find some online downloadable PDF's. 2019: https://scoutingevent.com/Download/80372330/OR/Guide_to_Safe_Scouting.pdf with CSE Michael Surbaugh 2021: https://pathwaytoadventure.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/guide-to-safe-scouting.pdf 404 Not Found: https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf My $0.02,

@oldasdirteagle welcome to scouter.com .

Boy Scouts Troop 74 from Montville, NJ, today soared their way to victory, earning the title of National Champion at the 23rd American Rocketry Challenge National Finals held at Great Meadow in The Plains, VA. Boy Scouts Troop 74, whose team name is “The Troop 74 Rocketeers,” outperformed a record-breaking 1,001 teams that entered the competition at the start of the year and bested the top 100 teams competing at National Finals on Saturday. This is the team’s first time qualifying for National Finals. Their precision in designing, building, and launching a model rocket was unmatched by any other team in the country. Boy Scouts Troop 74 students will take home $20,000 for their engineering prowess and will represent the United States in the International Rocketry Challenge at the Paris Air Show in June. ... “Today feels surreal—we weren’t expecting to win,” said Makayo (Mak), a Boy Scouts Troop 74 teammate. “Seeing a score of two from another team after the first round was crazy compared to our score of 16, but we stayed optimistic for our second launch. Once we realized we were in the top 10, we were excited that we might actually have a chance to win. Our biggest challenge was building a consistent rocket. Our launch tower took nearly two hours to assemble today, and balancing it against strong winds was tricky, but we were prepared. A huge shoutout to Chase, who couldn’t be here today. We worked hard as a team— Chase was in charge of management and scheduling, I led design and building, and Thomas assisted with assembly and launch preparation. For future teams competing in the American Rocketry Challenge, our biggest piece of advice is to be consistent.” Boy Scouts Troop 74, a third-year Boy Scouts of America (BSA) team, excels in rocketry through innovative design, consistency, and function, driven by Scout spirit. The team consists of three dedicated scouts: Mak, Thomas, and Chase. They collaborate to engineer model rockets, learning more about aerodynamics for successful launches. They ensure consistent builds for reliable flights and prioritize functional designs that soar. The team’s victory follows months of dedicated preparation designing, building, and testing a rocket capable of meeting rigorous mission parameters set by the competitions’ sponsors – the Aerospace Industries Association (AIA), National Association of Rocketry, and 15 other industry, government, and academia partners. To qualify for the finals, each team designed, built, and launched a model rocket that safely carried two eggs to an altitude of 790 feet, stayed airborne for between 41 and 44 seconds, and returned the rocket to the ground safely. At the National Finals, a Friday night coin flip determined that competing teams had to launch the rockets to 815 feet in the first round of competition. The top 42 teams conducted a second launch that was required to reach 765 feet. “Today’s National Finals was a success for all 100 competing teams, who showcased the future of aerospace innovation – built on teamwork, innovative thinking, and practical problem solving,” said AIA President and CEO Eric Fanning. “The Boy Scouts Troop 74 Rocketeers exemplified these qualities. After besting 1,001 teams, the team’s incredible achievement will propel them to the international stage at the Paris Air Show in June and set them on a bright and promising path to a career in STEM.” Scout Salute, More at sources including photos: https://rocketcontest.org/news/new-jersey-team-named-national-champion-in-worlds-largest-rocketry-challenge/ https://www.tapinto.net/towns/montville/sections/community-life/articles/paris-bound-montville-boy-scouts-win-national-rocketry-competition

Girl Scouts Heart of Michigan found a photo of Brownie Taylor. Nicely done. Sources: https://www.facebook.com/GSHOM?ref=embed_post https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/girl-scouts-unveil-rare-childhood-085528203.html

FYI: The 2024 Financial Report is now posted there. It is a 25 page independent audit compiled by Price Waterhouse Cooper.

@danimal508 welcome to scouter.com

"The scouts of Troop 51 recently took a backpacking trip on the Chattooga River and hit the trail near Licklog Falls in Oconee County. Twenty-one scouts and adults made it on the hike. The trip was called the “Bradley Hawkins Memorial Hike” in memory of one of their former scout leaders and Eagle Scouts, who died as a result of a skateboarding accident in November 2021 at the age of 21. When Hawkins was a scout, he showed the troop the Chattooga Trail." Scout Salute Troop photo at source: https://www.yourpickenscounty.com/troop-51-scouts-hike-chattooga-trail/ https://www.sctrails.net/trails/trail/chattooga

05/25/2025 Bellingham, WA: Troop 4027 scouts pitched their tents in Riverside Park to overnight guard the 400 Ski to Sea canoes. “You gotta stay alert,” said Ramsey Mitchell, 15. “It would be pretty obvious if someone’s taking something.” Scouts have been watching "overnight in Riverside Park the Saturday before Ski to Sea for the last 40 years. It’s the troop’s largest fundraiser — from requesting a suggested $5 donation for watching the canoes to selling hot dogs during Sunday’s race handoff between road bikers and canoeists. Last year, Troop 4027 raised more than $3,000, enough to send six boys and two adults to Scout summer camp in Oregon." This year they raised $5000! Scout Salute. More at source (good read): https://www.cascadiadaily.com/2025/may/27/boy-scouts-keep-ski-to-sea-canoes-safe-overnight-at-riverside-park/ https://skitosea.com/

I wasn't aware it was a redundant posting. Sorry about that.

05/25/25: Dan Beard Council held the groundbreaking ceremony of the $2.5 million Dever Family Foundation Skilled Trades Education Center at Camp Friedlander. Over 250 supporters celebrated the upcoming 10,000-square-foot facility which is scheduled to open in November. More at source: https://local12.com/news/local/boy-scouts-america-dan-beard-council-breaks-ground-skilled-trades-center-loveland-cincinnati-camp-friedlander

United Methodist Facilities Use & Indemnity Agreement: https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/524-95525-UMC-Facilities-Agreement.pdf

You raise a good point about the Eagle Scout or Scouter community. During recruiting, many colleges and universities mention their alumni network as potential future employers.

@lw3s welcome to scouter.com. Well done. Keep enthusiastic and keep networking. Find a problem that needs fixing. Other scouters are here to help.

@Frost welcome to scouter.com.

As I understand yesterday?, Council SE's were emailed a self-checklist regarding resuming range operation....but hasn't NCAP camp certification already or will soon be doing this or maybe the checklist focused on third-party oversight? That Hawaiian troop which tragically held their own range event resulted in the camp range being closed for more than a year. Will Total Archery Challenge return to Summit next year?

Random thoughts about risk: Were scout activities going on at Bechtel Summit while Total Archery ran their non-scouting event? Were scouts participating in that non-scout event? Who registered the event participants? The posted executive order applies only to scout camps and properties, so a council could have their Shooting Clays fundraiser moved to a local sportsmen club? A lot of council Shooting Clays fundraisers are scheduled for May and June.

@MikeS72 Thanks, I changed the topic title back. I continue to wonder why the BSA cannot timestamp their official communications.

I modified the title as it appears ranges are closed only at Summit where accident occurred. Still looking for a BSA announcement.

Update 5/21/2025: A Public Inquiry Workshop with Hernando County reps and the Greater Tampa Bay Area Council discussed proposed details of Council selling 51 acres of the 1400 acre Sand Hill Scout Reservation to Withlacoochee River Electric Co-op. Warren Hunt said a road in the reservation was named after his grandfather who helped acquire the land from the former property owner, Larry Die Polder. Hunt said, according to Die Polder's will, "Mr. Die Polder, when he passed away, donated it to the scouts, and it was supposed to stay a scout's camp forever. If it doesn’t stay a scout’s camp, it’s supposed to go back to the county for a park." The topic will be further discussed in a Planning and Zoning Commission meeting in the coming weeks. More meeting details at source: https://www.fox13news.com/news/discussion-held-possible-boy-scouts-sand-hill-reservation-sale-despite-former-owners-dying-wish

@prof are you referring to an archer accidentally shot over the the weekend at the Total Archery Challenge (non-scout) event at Bechtel Summit? https://totalarcherychallenge.com/events/west-virginia/ From Facebook https://www.facebook.com/totalarcherychallenge During the Total Archery Challenge event in West Virginia, an incident occurred involving a participant on one of the courses. The individual is in stable condition and recovering. Safety remains our top priority. While incidents like this are rare and unfortunate, they reinforce the importance of upholding our safety standards at all times and reaffirm our ongoing commitment to continuously review and enhance our protocols. The 2025 Total Archery Challenge Tour will proceed as scheduled. We are grateful for the continued support of our partners and attendees and remain committed to leading with the same passion, professionalism, and focus on safety that our participants have come to expect. We would also like to send a big THANK YOU to all EMT’s, participants, and parties involved during the incident. Out of respect to the injured participant and his family, and until the facts are gathered, comments and communication regarding the incident will be disabled. We are grateful for the outpouring of support and ask that you continue to keep those involved in your thoughts. We look forward to seeing you on the mountain. – The Total Archery Challenge Team More details regarding archer and donations: https://www.bowhunting.com/article/archer-shot-in-accident-at-total-archery-challenge-in-west-virginia/