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Wouldn't it be cool if scouts lashed a tall Trump tower, oh wait a minute there's a 6 ft. height limit.

I hope our Scouts are courteous and kind this time. IMO, it was a good idea for SecState Tillerson to appear ahead of President. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mbg-oxrAWQ

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20170721/secretary-of-state-tillerson-stops-in-wv-for-boy-scout-jamboree U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson along with his wife Brenda visited the Jamboree on Friday as part of a ceremony detailing the planned Rex W. Tillerson Leadership Center and unveiling a bronze statue of him at the site ..Tillerson spoke about the leadership center and the importance of instilling values-based leadership in America’s youth. “When we acquired the site for the Jamboree, we realized we had an opportunity to do so much more than that,†said Tillerson, who served as national president of the Boy Scouts of America from 2010 to 2012. “We wanted to create a lasting leadership opportunity, and this was a part I really wanted to attach my name to.†The Rex W. Tillerson Leadership Center will be a part of the Thomas S. Monson Leadership Excellence Complex, which is under development. The center will be “a place for leadership and ethics training for youth,†according to Wayne Perry, another former national president of the BSA. Perry said the center will be approximately 12,000 square feet and feature multipurpose classrooms, an auditorium and a library. The Boy Scouts unveiled a bronze statue of Tillerson and presented him with a flag and smaller replica statue. “I feel so blessed to be led to this place and to be a part of this project,†he said. “My part is very small, but I am proud of my part.†... Tillerson told Scouts to “never stop developing†as people and to be a “principles-based leader.†“You have to practice and work hard at it, and you are going to be challenged,†Tillerson said of improving as a leader and person. “That is what we want to teach you at this center — to practice and apply these values.†More details at above source link. Tillerson is a Distinguished Eagle Scout, Silver Buffalo Award recipient and past national president of the BSA.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia/articles/2017-07-21/trump-to-visit-boy-scouts-jamboree-in-west-virginia "On Monday, Trump will become the eighth U.S. president to attend a Jamboree. More than 40,000 Scouts, their leaders and volunteers are at the 10-day event." "Presidents dating back to George H.W. Bush attended the Jamboree when it was previously held at a military base at Fort A.P. Hill, Virginia. President Barack Obama declined an invitation from the Scouts to address the 2010 Jamboree in Virginia and the 2013 Jamboree when it was held for the first time in West Virginia."

@@PeterS welcome to scouter.com.

I forget his name but remember he was surprised by our camp fires and skits. I think he was accustomed to more and better Scout singing at gatherings. @@Back Pack My two years of high school German failed me, so translated online.

As a scout, we had a German, well West German then, ASM for Provo. Very low-key, cool guy. I saw this brief article about about a Springbok Scout from South Africa teaching sailing at some Mississippi Valley Council camps. http://www.thehawkeye.com/news/local/south-african-scout-sails-into-area-summer-camps/article_11f51680-6dc9-56dc-a986-9a621afd63ff.html

Does your summer camp have international scouts on staff? Seems less common these days.

January seems an odd time, midway in program year. There is increasing talk in my old pack to unofficially allow (more) girls to participate this Sept at start of the program year. Some do already, notably daughters of den leaders. Some went to Cub resident camp. Want to tell those moms their daughters can't participate? National's survey is becoming moot. Local units assume it is coming and will already have it figured out.

Me? Mostly interested in hearing about Maine High Adventure Camp and OKPIK programs if you were involved or experienced them.

@@nuwriter . Welcome to scouter.com . Could you tell us about your experiences working for two New England Scout Councils?

Some merit badge mills are touting themselves as "patrol method' camps in that patrols do their own patrol cooking. Camp Bell in Griswold Scout Reservation (NH) once was a true patrol method camp. Not only did patrols plan and cook their own meals but planned their daily activities as well. MB classes were not offered., rather activity area. Sure a scout might get some rank, mb requirements but no completed blue card at end of the week. Looking at the 2017 Leaders' Guide in appears to be moving towards a mill. Hope I'm wrong.

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@@aveline from the Garden State welcome to scouter.com

How about SCITELs , pronounced Skittles , SCouts In Training Ever Loyal.

Then would girl Cubs go through a different Webelos (We Be Loyal To Something Else ) to prepare for that "partner" program?

Yes in video, the "Make Scouting More Accessible" argument and examples stopped at Cub Scouts. After that, a separate and maybe equal argument was applied, i.e., a partner or parallel (in-house) program, family accessibility was not a concern. From slide Will we find a partner? Shared values Nationwide reach Robust, similar curriculum top award as significant as Eagle Create our own Program? parallel with Boy Scouting same program or adjusted for girls is Eagle top award? Parallel honor society (OA) Camping questions

@@MattR thanks for posting video. IMO, logical thinking appeared thin. Family Scouting, dumbed down over-complicated programs,and ever increasing restrictions/costs worries me more than girls, gays, and the godless. My $0.01

Ask if they will have to take the exit before the Cross-Over bridge?

It does seem inconsistent that camp staff, either by camp policy or troop preference, commonly does not sign off on S-T-SC-FC requirements, their core competencies (I hope ) , while merit badge blue cards they do.

IMO, it seems counter-productive to schedule "Making Scouting Accessible for Families" discussions during peak family summer vacation time - end of July, early August.

Whatever the change, I wonder if Councils will provide a resource pool of outdoorsy, scout-enthused women leaders for that coed 10 mile hike, canoe trip, etc.

I googled and had a little deja vu, all over again when I found this , complete with a link back to this forum. --------------- A commenter at the SCOUTER forum (for local leaders) posted about an email he received over the weekend about upcoming meetings to discuss future changes… that gave no indication at all about what those changes would be. I am pretty sure that what the [scout Executive] will be discussing at this meeting is the admission of girls to Cub and Boy Scouting. But it’s not like the letter actually says that or anything. I think many of my fellow nearby Scouters are going to look at this and decide they do not wish to spend a couple of hours in the middle of the summer (when they might be on vacation and/or at summer camp and unable to attend anyway) discussing “how to make Scouting more accessible to today’s families.†… … are they really interested in “gaining my perspective†(on a topic that they are not actually identifying before the meeting), or is this really part of a nationwide rollout of a decision that they’ve made already? Do they really want my opinion, or are they just going to try to sell me on what they’re going to do anyway? (These are mainly rhetorical questions.) ------------ Hmmm, apparently said commenter has embolden media critics.

I advise my scouts who are on the path to Eagle to 1. earn it before you start filling out college and scholarship applications (junior year) 2. earn it before National changes the requirements, e.g., Cooking MB.

Ditching is described in my old 6th edition handbook . We would ditch our tents where we could NOT select our campsite such as at a open field camporee with rain in the forecast. On the Camping Trail to First Class Keeping out of the Rain, second, third paragraph, p263 If you've pitched your tent on a small elevation or on ground that absorbs the water quickly, you'll have little to worry about Otherwise you may have to ditch your tent on the uphill side. The ditch need be only 4 inches deep and 4 inches wide Cut inside of ditch flush with tent wall. Place the sod you dig up at the outside edge of the ditch, and replace when camp is over. Remember that ditching on sloping ground may create an erosion problem - so only ditch in an emergency and not at all if not permitted, as in state and national parks.