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Group A has the program you want but does not want you. Group B wants you but will not offer the program you want. Program matters.

Could we recycle the name "Varsity" as in henceforth, Boy Scout Venture Patrols will now be known and only be known as Boy Scout Varsity Patrols. End the confusion with Venture patrols (Boy Scout) and crews (Venturers). My $0.02,

His parents stated that they signed him up for an Intro to Backpacking Trek which is listed in the Buffalo Trail Scout Ranch High Adventure pamphlet. http://buffalotrailbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/BTSR-2015-High-Adventure-Booklet.pdf On page 5, "Adult Leadership on Treks - all crews going on the trail must have adult leaders..." Pages 6-9, detail the Introduction to Backpacking.

Scouts could have done without the "snowflakes" insult, but if your local OA lodge is not fulfilling its mission of service ( and Snow Owl observed other lodges do) why encourage membership? If from my experience a MBC or a scout camp was not fulfilling the BSA stated standard, I would not encourage either. Same with teachers, schools, youth programs, ...

In this topic thread "Resistance to OA", you have not. You just gave a thumbs down to a Snow Owl's detailed, considered reply to the OP. So care to elaborate?

http://www.nhtrib.com/news/promising-start “We’re having a rally on the weekend after Labor Day next year,â€â€ˆTrower said. “That’s an absolute positive.†And while attendance at the first-ever New Hampton Motorcycle Rally paled in comparison to the heyday of the Davis Rally, Trower and the Boy Scouts had plenty of reasons to celebrate the rally they put together in a span of just two months. The community support was outstanding, the reviews from the almost 300 motorcyclists were almost exclusively positive and the scouts themselves had a blast. “It went great,†Trower said ... Researching this topic, I found several Boy Scout sponsored motorcycle rallies. Some were Council sponsored but more were troop sponsored.

Good report by CBS Morning show. $1mil lawsuit. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parents-of-boy-scout-who-died-on-hiking-trip-lawsuit-boy-scouts-of-america/

Perhaps @@Cleveland Rocks will explain with his first post in this topic.

If scouts, PL, and SPL fail to follow the nutrition guidelines (MyPlate) in their handbook OR they did not consider food allergies in their patrol, then ASM will not approve the menu, reminders given, and back to the drawing board. Ditto for shopping in checking ingredients, cost, food packaging and storage. We don't want the wrong food spoiling an outing for anybody.

Porkroll you get a +1 for that alone. Now if you had said scrapple too you would be a JASM.

Absolutely, we check them and follow the nutritional guidelines stated in their handbooks. Otherwise, what is the point in teaching nutrition and cooking if they are not meeting the expectations of the Scouting program . We have an ASM who approves menus and another who is available to assist in shopping within the patrol budget, less some Scout thought buying food at Whole Paycheck was a good idea.

NJ, were you given adequate prior notice of the sale?

Glad to hear. Thanks.

From that link: What to bring: Medical parts A &B, gloves, bug spray, water bottle, boots, long sleeve shirt We will be mucking houses that were flooded so they can begin the rebuilding process. Is Council providing respirator masks?

Did you friend know Russell Means? I think he was a Scout there in that time period.

Thanks I didn't finish that fragment about carbs and heart disease. Excess sugar, whatever the source, can lead to higher triglyceride levels and increased weight, both heart risks. As stated in the links, the slushes and candy are still there. You seem upset that healthier alternatives were made available giving the consumer more freedom of choice.

Excess sugar At the trading post, the new approach meant changes to both product placement and product cost. Healthier options became more visible and less expensive. “These good-for-you foods were priced lower than candy, slushes and soda, which were still available for purchase,†Jeanne Arnold said. “They just weren’t the first thing you saw.†https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2017/08/29/bsa-camps-adding-healthier-options-at-dining-halls-trading-posts/

Those who attended that camp may feel differently. They should have been made aware their Council wants to close it and be given a chance to speak before a decision is made. Or...is it just another lost cause Mr. Paine?

https://www.tapinto.net/towns/edison/articles/help-save-sabattis-adventure-camp-for-our-boy-sco-8 ...I ( CC Boy Scout Troop 77 in Westfield, NJ) awoke yesterday to rumors that the Patriots Path Council Executive Committee is voting in a week to close Sabattis Adventure Camp, which has been a source of learning and fun for Boy Scouts for 60 years, and sell the 1,250-acre property to developers in the Adirondacks. It is not clear why they are considering this move. Although many are aware this is happening, there is no official word from the council. There have been no public discussions, no consultations with those most closely affected by the council decisions: the troops, the packs, the Scouts and their families. It is odd that a Boy Scout Executive Committee should behave this way. It runs counter to everything we teach our scouts at every meeting. It runs counter to the Scout Law and the Scout Oath that our boys repeat at the start of every troop meeting, every troop activity and every sunrise at Sabattis. I have emailed all members of the Patriots Path Council staff, urging them against the closure of Sabattis Adventure Camp, and I have received the exact same canned reply from all but one who have responded, even with the same typo: The council president has called a special executive board meeting to discuss the future of Sabattis Adventure Camp. Until the board meets there is no change with the Sabattis Adventure Camp program. If they are any changes it will be announced on the council website during the week of September 18th. There is no mention of a Council President on the Patriots Path Council website. It certainly seems the result is already determined. I encourage all those with a stake in the future of the Boy Scout Program, whether your sons are currently Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Eagle Scouts or past Scouts, whether they have attended Sabattis, currently attend or currently volunteer at Sabattis to attend a protest scheduled to begin just before the Executive Committee meeting. The protest begins at 6 p.m. at the Patriots Path Council Office at 1 Saddle Road, Cedar Knolls, NJ, on Monday, Sept. 18. Sabattis Adventure Camp is located in Long Lake, NY

What does your Scoutmaster advise? Merit badges aren't about easy, they are about personal growth through adult association - learn a skill, learn how to communicate and work with adults (other than your parents) Who knows there might be a local MBC who rode the famed Tour de Donut

@@SFTX welcome to scouter.com . Lurk? My guess is you will have plenty to say.

I doubt the troop was running any of the gambling activities. I suspect the troop organized the campgrounds and rally gathering points, sold firewood and maybe water and food, while other local organizations sponsored the gambling activities.

Gambling? I'm shocked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_A4Skusro

Yes a lesson for life - how to eat healthy,

IMO, as organizers decide not to continue annual events (parades, holiday events,...) for various reasons, this may be a fundraising opportunity for local units to step up.