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@an_old_DCAccording to NPR (link below) Sydney Ireland has been involved with scouting since she was four years old, when she began tagging along with her older brother to Cub Scout meetings. Since then, she has been an unofficial, but enthusiastic, member of Troop 414 in Manhattan. " Over the years, Sydney's activities with the troop have included camping trips, hiking, archery, ice climbing and, yes, knot-tying. As a city kid, she has learned to cherish a connection to the outdoors and she credits the Boy Scouts for helping to foster it. But although the local troop has welcomed Sydney's participation, she is not able to officially earn merit badges and advance in rank along with the boys around her, because she is a girl. ... Sydney takes scouting and the skills involved so seriously that she has sought membership in troops outside the U.S. She is a full, dues-paying member of a troop in Ontario, Canada — one of dozens of countries with co-ed scouting. In fact, Sydney recently earned the Chief Scout's Award, Canada's highest honor in scouting, and has the badge and a letter of congratulations from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to show for it. But she is determined to become an Eagle Scout as a full member of Troop 414, reaching the top achievement of an organization she has been part of nearly her entire life. https://www.npr.org/2017/04/29/526021195/meet-the-teenage-girl-who-wants-to-be-a-boy-scout

So if I understand, a double standard would be avoided the den gender assignments were as follows: X=female, Y=male ? Leaders Den XX or XY XXXXXX YY or XY YYYYYY

@Back Pack your post was edited. No need for derogatory references. Don't confuse awards and achievements. Your achievements are not worthless nor are their worth determined by awards assuming you receive an award. And no one can make your achievements worthless. cc: @NJCubScouter @Sentinel947

Ok then, this topic is about "soft launch" of registering girls in Cub Packs. There's been some good information provided by a variety of members. Please stay on topic. Thanks cc: @NJCubScouter, @Sentinel947

3 adults needed for a girls den? I have seen fewer adults at a Girl Scout troop meeting.

This has been on my mind. Maybe a well-trained, trusted elite ranger scouting group that can go on outings , service activities without adults.

Need a designated fall guy to blame?

My understanding, Ms. Ireland wants admission into Boy Scouts now so she can meet all the same Eagle requirements by her 18th birthday. Time is not on her side.

It bothers me when real scouts are not used in photos, like the fake Eagle Scout with TWO Camping merit badges on his sash who appeared on the back of merit badge pamphlets. Those girls can't be Cub Scouts yet, right?

As I recall, she has been a scout in Canada and a Venturer in US. Her family is heavily involved in Scouting; her brother is an Eagle. As she said earlier , "I am 16 and have been an unofficial member of the Boy Scouts for 12 years. I tagged along with my older brother, wearing the same uniforms, earning badges and learning to camp along with the other boys. ... For the past four years, I have been publicly advocating for girls to be admitted as full members of the Boy Scouts. ." Seems to fit the new narrative coming from National, so a win for National and a win for her. I imagine National is giving serious thought if they should "select" the first female Eagle or leave it to chance. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/im-a-girl-ive-been-part-of-the-boy-scouts-for-years-its-time-i-become-a-member/2017/08/25/a6d61ea8-89c1-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html

Well we knew this was coming... A Bridgehampton teen who has advocated tirelessly for years for the right for young women to join Boy Scouts saw victory recently — but, sadly, by the time girls are allowed to join Boy Scout troops in 2019, she will have aged out of the program. To that end, her father Gary Ireland and the rest of Sydney Ireland's family are urging people to write to Boy Scout President Randall Stephenson and Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh and ask them to allow Sydney "to join the organization immediately so that she can have the opportunity to work towards the Eagle Rank. . . Please give her the opportunity to be part of the change and finish what she started," Ireland wrote. Source link with email addresses: https://patch.com/new-york/southampton/teen-who-fought-girls-join-boy-scouts-seeks-earn-eagle So if she and her family are successful, maybe there will be "soft launches" in some Scout troops soon or maybe a full path to Eagle will be implemented in Venturing. Could be a win-win.

Bobby Fischer wrote a chess for awhile. I liked the Space Conquerors strip. Back then the space race was on. Why didn't they just go at night?

All too common. I joined a troop where only the ASM's had scouts in the troop; the Troop Committee were all grumpy lifers. Term limits anyone? Let me know if you want the Topic title changed.

Getting off-topic I split @WisconsinMomma recent post

I hid @Col. Flagg recent post, pending review by moderators. How others parent their own kids is not part of the discussion.

Well er, umm, well surely I can't be the first on this forum to satirize , exaggerate, misspeak, tell a ripping yarn,....

About rumored new Den Chief training, the thought was what to do with girl dens? Can they have Boy Scouts as Den Chiefs?

Ok then, back to hammocks. Has anyone tried the Sierra Madre hammocks? I saw their sales pitch on Shark Tank recently. I was impressed and so was Branson.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor of an updated YPT and Den Chief training coming this spring. Anyone else hear about this?

I did not blame girls or women, in fact I did not state the genders, dating is inappropriate at a scout activity. Or did that change?

There is coffee all over my screen. Scouts going on a date while at a scout activity? Not happening.

Rabbi (Captain) Cass was involved with Boy Scouts. One day, scouts presented him with a large sand timer. “But how can I use it?” he asked with seeming innocence. “To time your sermons,” came the cheeky reply. Interesting story about Hanukah during WW2 in Europe at link above

Bridgeville town council in November voted to rename Locust Alley to Eagle Way in honor of BSA Troop No. 2. Nearly 70 scouts from have earned Eagle Scout since the troop started in 1982 http://www.post-gazette.com/local/west/2017/12/08/Street-in-Bridgeville-to-be-renamed-in-honor-of-Boy-Scout-Troop-2-Eagle-Scouts/stories/201712070001 Nice way to get Eagles and the BSA on the map.

@an_old_DC have you heard of other "soft launch" councils? So far, this is the only one which I have found.

I don't think girls do primary colors. Camelian or Crimson neckers maybe, but definitely not Red.