RememberSchiff

Interesting to read about Temptations and how to use them towards our aims, BP mentions "motion pictures" and the "cinema place" as his examples.

You might want to change your obligatory upvote then.

My older son took a one day course which just focused on air travel. You can't run or hide in a plane.

In school scenarios maybe, scouting scenarios can be different. Can't lock doors and cellphones may not work.

Agree. IMO, need professionals teaching in real life settings with interactive exercises. Some serious individual thought as to what it means to be Brave.

Police now advise/teach teachers and students to run, hide, fight. Should BSA add this training to YP?

@Urbanredneck welcome to scouter.com

See something (and again many did beforehand even over internet), say something,...and then say it again... Washington State Grandmother reports grandson http://abcnews.go.com/US/grandmother-reports-grandson-school-shooting-plot-washington/story?id=53136502

Yes, opiods comes to mind.

@Eagledad , around here CM's and ACM's are more likely to cross-over into SM and ASM positions than Webelos DL's particularly those on their second tour or more.

Ok then, let's keep it Courteous and Kind. Thanks.

Good point. Webelos, back in the day (here he goes), was a shorter program perhaps for that reason, as was Cub Scouts. A 5th grader Cub started his last year working on Lion (Wolf-Bear-Lion), at the end of the year you worked on Webelos/AOL for a short time. The requirements were learn the BOY SCOUT OATH and LAW, salute, hand sign, motto... If Boy Scouts interested you, you joined a troop where you learned your Tenderfoot skills. When you think about what preparation does an 11yr old need to join Boy Scouts? None, no experience required. Same is true for his adult leaders.

I have wondered why OA was not purposed with teaching the old Wood Badge course. Sort of full circle, OA promotes Scout camping so why not Arrowmen teach new adult leaders?

I have answered all your questions as best as I can.

How is this any better than a cell phone or sat phone? It provides more intel, giving rescuers more situational awareness to commit proper resources in a smarter way. I guess we agree to disagree.

Let's stay focused. We were given a working cellphone and cellphone network at the start of this discussion. Who initiates the distress call, is it the hiker? What if he is incapacitated? What if he is dead? Say the hiker has medical IoT sensors in his clothing to chain medical data via a working phone whether the user is conscious or not. So data is returned and shared, the hiker is at this location and has this pulse, temp, BP, respiration rate or he does not (He's dead Jim). The weather is getting worse, do you dispatch a SAR team ASAP or do you wait until the weather clears and send a Recovery team? The recent Mt. Hood rescue comes to mind.

Depending on what IoT sensors in use, it can give you intel beyond just the location so your response is more appropriate (smarter).

See the links I provided above as a start. Look at this tech as adding more functionality to current phones, etc. For example, medical vitals data (from clothing sensors) is added to the chain so rescuers can respond accordingly. If real-time is not available, then last known chain data could be useful. My understanding is blockchain data can be shared more readily for alerts to those nearby and family. Would I buy LLbean clothing with their stated purposed IoT sensors? No.

I guess we agree to disagree again.

Huh? GPS blockchain systems and devices already exist. SAR has been finding lost hikers via the hiker's smart phones for some time. https://www.coaspire.com/blockchain/ https://futurefive.co.nz/story/g-me-launches-blockchain-backed-gps-device/

Thanks for bringing to my attention. As you can see posts have been moved to this new topic. RS

Well I suppose your boots could sign off or not on a 5 mile hike. I wonder if L.L.Bean will provide data to Search and Rescue?

L.L. Bean Inc. wants to test the combination of blockchain and Internet of Things technology to understand how people use its outdoor gear. In a test due to begin this year, L.L. Bean plans to ship a line of coats and boots with sewn-in sensors that send data to the public Ethereum blockchain platform. The retailer is building a data tracking and analytics system to use customer data stored on Ethereum. Loomia, a Brooklyn-based technology company, plans to provide sheets of flexible circuitry to embed in the apparel, along with a small hardware device that uses near-field communication signals to collect data from the circuits while the customers wears the garments. Chad Leeder, innovation specialist at the outdoors gear provider, says the information, likely to include temperature, frequency of wear and number of washes, could show whether customers use the products as intended and whether new products live up to supplier promises. Insights could be funneled into product development, marketing and supplier negotiations, he says. Although L.L. Bean has collected customer comments for years, the data from this system would be more quantified, Mr. Leeder says. “Digital, quantifiable data about how customers are actually using a product — we’ve never had that data before.” Blockchain technology is well-suited for the test because the ledger encrypts data and lets many sources make updates continuously, he says. More at source link: https://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2018/02/07/l-l-bean-to-link-boots-coats-to-a-blockchain/ https://www.inc.com/erik-sherman/ll-beans-new-iot-blockchain-tech-combo-is-very-smart-and-incredibly-creepy.html

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Installing a competent scouter as your Council Advancement Chair, IMO would be a better solution.