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I was not there either and have many questions. According to Salem, UT police chief Brad James, ... the pond is a popular swimming spot in the summer, with a beach area, picnic tables and pavillions. Though he said the water is quite calm, he urged anyone swimming there to keep safety in mind. “You should have flotation devices,” he said. “You should have life jackets, you should have throwaway devices to throw to somebody for help, you should always have those in place any time you’re swimming in open water like that.” So my take is those devices were not present and it is still unknown if there was a medical condition involved. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/07/19/troop-leader-drowns-utah/ I suspect local police and fire will/have questioned and instructed adult leaders and scouts but what does the unit and Council do in the next weeks? Grief counseling, review/retraining, install life rings at that park? My $0.01

The National Eagle Scout Association’s (NESA) World Explorers Program pairs stellar Eagle Scouts with world-class researchers at sites around the globe. Just 24 Eagle Scouts from across the nation are selected for the World Explorer program. To gain consideration for the program, an Eagle has to write a 250-word essay and produce a three-minute YouTube video about his Scouting career. Luke Giovanine , a 22-year-old Eagle Scout and Valparaiso University senior from Moline,IL was one of the 24 Eagles selected. For 10 days in late June/early July, Luke worked sometimes 14 hours per day with experts in exploring, mapping and data collecting in speleological disciplines such as cartography, biology, geology and hydrology, tracking deep into the interior of the 400-mile-long Mammoth Cave system in Kentucky. More details and photos at source link: https://qconline.com/lifestyles/joh_marx/q-c-eagle-scout-dives-into-caves-to-earn-world/article_80a7b5a5-7f67-540a-b57d-92cd6198e899.html

"Police have identified a Boy Scout leader who drowned after saving a boy struggling in a Utah pond. Salem police said Thursday that 22-year-old Wesley Robert Kratzer of Orem, Utah, disappeared underwater after pushing one of his young charges to safety on Wednesday night. Chief Brad James says Kratzer was found by divers under about 12 feet (4 meters) of water. He says the water is typically calm at the popular swimming spot, and it’s not clear why Kratzer slipped under the surface. He says Kratzer was one of three leaders helping three Scouts learn swimming techniques so they could advance to the next level of Scouting. Members of the group were not wearing life jackets. The child wasn’t hurt." http://www.bcdemocrat.com/2018/07/19/us-troop-leader-drowns-the-latest/ https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/south/salem/orem-scout-leader-who-drowned-in-salem-pond-identified/article_58915864-371b-5d15-a639-06fb9afd3c9e.html

SALEM, Utah — According to Salem Police Chief Brad James, a small group of Boy Scouts and their leaders were at the Knoll Park area of the pond practicing basic swimming . A 25-year-old Utah County Scout Master went in to the water to rescue a scout who was struggling and pushed him to safety, but the leader went under the water, according to James. https://fox13now.com/2018/07/18/boy-scout-leader-potentially-drowned-at-salem-ponds-police-say/ https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/south/salem/scout-leader-drowns-in-salem-pond/article_d178de2f-0d78-58e9-bd06-e9a89af1d6be.html

NPR had another report which focused on the necessity of straws for disabled customers.

Update: July 17, 2018 The five-year legal battle over control of the 100-acre Camp Richard Scout property on Nantucket has ended, with Judge Gary Nickerson ruling this week that an island scouting group is the owner of the property. “This is an amazing win for the people who put so many years of hard work into the camp and to all Nantucketers for years to come,” said Nantucket Land Council executive director Cormac Collier, whose organization assisted the Camp Richard Campers Association in fighting to retain ownership of the camp. The legal battle stemmed from the Cape & Islands Council of the Boy Scouts of America’s agreement five years ago to sell a portion of the property to Hingham-based Atlantic Development for $5 million , and efforts by island scouting groups – backed by the Nantucket Civic League (former owner of the property) and the Nantucket Land Council – to bar the sale . Last year, Superior Court Judge Gary Nickerson ruled that Camp Richard should forever remain a “campsite for the scouts of Nantucket,” and must be transferred back to the Civic League if used for any other purpose. He also determined – without any evidentiary hearings – that ownership of the property was to remain in a trust controlled by the off-island council, in part because it was affiliated with the national Boy Scouts of America and the Camp Richard Campers Association, the local organization, was not. In January, a three-judge appeals-court panel remanded the ownership question back to Superior Court after ruling that Nickerson’s decision was made “without affording the parties an opportunity to present evidence bearing on the question of the appropriate trustee. That was error.” Scout Salute to those good scouts who fought and saved Camp Richard for future scouts! More at link below: http://www.ack.net/news/20180717/judge-rules-camp-richard-belongs-to-nantucket-scout-group

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"No parents or coaches, just us." Then: outdoors...sandlot baseball, football,...patrol hikes, camping Now: indoors (bedroom closed door) Xbox Live ...

Update: July 13, 2018 The Morris Creek Fire, burning on the UU Bar Ranch, Philmont Scout Ranch, and State Land. Size: 1,671 acres, 77% contained. Cause: Lightning. https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/5887

Hmm, maybe one of your scouts gave your car a pheromone rinse.

We have schedule problems with weekend campouts so I am doubtful a week could be scheduled during the school year. Not even the Debate Team and FIRST take a whole week away from the regular 180 day school schedule. Maybe winter and spring vacation weeks but getting school-approved chaperons might be difficult. Another issue for some state public schools, the program may need to fulfill part of that state's education curriculum frameworks.

Update: 7/12/2018 LAKE O' THE PINES, TX (KLTV) - An electric company is considering major renovations to move utility lines underneath a creek where three boy scouts were electrocuted in 2017. A representative for Upshur Rural Electric Cooperative confirmed Thursday that the electric company has system-wide plans in the works, "including an extensive project that involves tunneling the lines that currently cross Alley Creek and placing them under the Lake O’ the Pines." On Aug. 5, 2017, three Hallsville Boy Scouts were electrocuted when their catamaran sailboat hit a power line at Alley Creek on the Lake o' the Pines Marina. Will Brannon, 17, Heath Faucheux, 16, died at the scene of the incident. Thomas Larry, 11, later died at a hospital in Shreveport. More details at source link: http://www.kltv.com/story/38632514/electric-company-considers-underground-lines-at-creek-where-boy-scouts-were-electrocuted

Scott Harmon, Sustainability Task Force Leader, - BSA In 2009, I pulled together a team to work on incorporating sustainability into scouting so that boys and girls across the United States could change the worldview of their families, too. After three years of planning, the Boy Scouts of America asked us to develop the Eagle Scout-required sustainability merit badge, which now has been earned by more than 25,000 scouts. Two years ago, this idea expanded beyond scouting to provide sustainability training to boys and girls, scouts and non-scouts, at local summer camps. More than 1,000 Boy Scout camps are in the United States alone, most of which are unused during the school year. Most can accommodate at least 300 campers a week. Assuming a 36-week school year, that’s 10 million camper-weeks of unused potential capacity per year. What if we could use that capacity during the school year for teaching middle-school and high-school students about sustainability while experiencing the great outdoors? That became our vision: to gather sustainability experts and interested teens at hundreds of scout summer camps to create a Sustainable Future Outdoor Academy focused on teaching young people about the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals in a hands-on format. From Aug. 13 to 17, we will be piloting the SFOA program at Cutter Scout Reservation, a 300-acre summer camp owned by BSA’s Pacific Skyline Council in Northern California. We are reaching out to schools groups, religious groups and scout groups to get a mix of youth entering the seventh, eighth and ninth grades this coming school year. They will be sleeping in safari tents equipped with double-decker cots and LED lanterns and will have the opportunity to try canoeing, boating and archery in their free time in addition to learning about sustainability. They will team with college-age counselors to give them support. ... Price: This Camp has been developed and subsidized by generous sponsors, so the standard Camp price of $500 is being offered this time only for $250 . Campers provide chaperones. Need-based scholarships are also available. Camp limited to 48 More, including planet-related SDG's curriculum, at source links: https://www.greenbiz.com/article/how-sustainability-summer-camp-could-affect-millions-youth http://www.pacsky.org/Activities/General/SFOA http://web-extract.constantcontact.com/v1/social_annotation?permalink_uri=2KydEq3&image_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com%2F3a4d25d0101%2F723aad18-8931-4e72-afa2-b701f11b6071.jpg%3Fver%3D1529955254000

Good question. I know of a couple of BSA camps needing to replace buildings lost to the Ute Park and Whittier forest fires.

@Mich08212 welcome to scouter,com . Tell us more, there appears to be some missing information .

"Exploring serves two different age groups, both coed. Explorer Clubs serve middle schoolers, aged 10 - 13, in sixth through eighth grades. Explorer Posts serve older youth 14 - 20 years old. The program model is the same for age groups..." From exploring.org website

The National Law Enforcement Exploring Conference (NLEEC) will be held July 16-20 at Purdue. It is expected to draw 2,100 people to campus, including youth participants ages 12 to 20, adult counselors and law enforcement officers. NLEEC has been in existence since 1959. Law Enforcement Exploring is a career orientation and experience program for young people contemplating a career in the field of criminal justice. Conferees focus on career opportunities, leadership experiences, life skills, citizenship and character education. In addition, they participate in multiple competitive activities including protocols, procedures, marksmanship, drill team, crisis negotiation and emergency response. Activities range from driving to a camper entertainment show, as well as individual events and formal opening and closing. At the conference website, I found no seminar discussion about the Louisville Police Explorer Scandal or YP changes in Exploring. More details at links: https://www.exploring.org/law-enforcement/2018nleec/ https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2018/Q3/national-law-enforcement-exploring-conference-to-draw-nearly-2,000-to-campus.html

Our youth are customers while we volunteers are stakeholders?

Another item to add to this survey. How frequently have you received VoS surveys? Were the questions expressed in an unbiased manner? Do you feel your concerns, ideas, opinions were captured by the survey? Did you see the published results of the completed survey or just a summary?

Sounds like a survey...in the making... maybe add Is Scoutingwire helpful? If not, what changes do you recommend. How does Council communicate with you? Remember communication goes BOTH ways. Is that communication informative, timely, and responsive? Do you find the Scouting Magazine articles relevant, e.g., a recent article on Nap Safety? Where do you go online to get scouting information and express your ideas, opinions, complaints and why? Bonus: What changes would you like to see with the Program Hazard Analysis, for example, input from volunteers, details (equipment, training, procedures) regarding injuries cited, ... I am sure there are more survey suggestions.

Good points. Another annoyance is when activity X is prohibited except at a BSA facility, as if safe, quality programs cannot possibly be offered elsewhere. Which brings me to a recent announcement of, exclusive to Summit, the National Hunters Education course. We do hunter education locally, outside of scouting, with instructors from Mass Wildlife and the host sportsmen club. Hunting rules and regulations, and licensing are state specific, plus scouts can bring their own firearm/bow to training.

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Update: In Missoula http://www.ktvh.com/2018/07/boy-scouts-traveling-across-the-u-s-visit-missoula

Detroit real estate investor Dennis Kefallinos has purchased a large former Boy Scouts of America campground in Lupton about 10 miles from the Huron National Forest. It's not yet known what Kefallinos plans to do with the 630-acre property at 3552 Lakeshore Drive, about 20 minutes northeast of West Branch, Chris Mihailovich, one of his top lieutenants, told me. "We are evaluating what's the best use of the property going forward, wish I had some more news," he said in a text message Monday night, adding that he did not know the purchase price. We at least know it was listed for $1.9 million, or $3,016 per acre. Staff in the Ogemaw County register of deeds office said a deed was filed April 27 for the April 23 sale of the Northwoods Scout Camp to Ivory Properties LLC, which is the 30-year-old LLC registered to Kefallinos at 1600 Clay St. in Detroit. That's the address of the Kefallinos-owned Russell Industrial Center off I-75. The campground, which closed in 2016, had been owned by Chief Okemos Council No. 271, one of nine scout councils that in 2012 had merged to create the Michigan Crossroads Council, which oversees Boy Scout properties, personnel and programs for the Lower Peninsula. http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20180703/blog016/665201/kefallinos-buys-630-acre-former-boy-scouts-camp

FAIRVIEW, Kansas — After 50 years, Jim Spellmeier, who was a member of Boy Scout Troop 156, finally received his Eagle. “The troop went away around that time, and then I was off to college and kind of forgot about it,” said Spellmeier. But when he noticed contact information for the Pony Express Council in a news article recently, he reached out. Fortuitously, records from 1968 still are intact at the Boy Scout office, and pleased to right the situation, officials shipped out his award. He credits Boy Scouts with giving him the opportunity to do things he wouldn’t have done if he wasn’t involved. “I remember swimming a mile at Camp Geiger and earning my Lifesaving badge, which I actually had to use once,” Spellmeier said. Not surprisingly, with some of his clearest memories relating to the water, the excellent swimmer was given the Mic-O-Say name of “Flashing Fin.” More at Source http://www.newspressnow.com/news/local_news/fairview-man-receives-eagle-award-years-later/article_d12026c1-7b55-594b-97b8-0626637d537c.html Related