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Straying off-topic, please standby as I split this evolving discussion to the I&P forum, - RS Thank you for your patience. I created a new topic in I&P

We do this as well. Unfortunately, we have a couple of District people who add an essay requirement. for EBOR. Arrrgh.

If the Scout Shop offers a "compression sock" version, I think Santa will deliver me a couple of pair.

Interesting read in Smithsonsian Oct, 2018 issue How the History of Merit Badges Is Also a Cultural History of the United States. .... if you look more closely at each embroidered round, you’ll discover that the scouts have been anything but static over the last century. The ever-changing roster of Girl Scout and Boy Scout merit badges forms an accidental history of American childhood, a record of what it has meant for girls and boys to “be prepared”—the eternal scouting motto—through two world wars, the Cold War and the War on Terror, through the birth of television, the dawn of the Space Age and the arrival of the internet. Often these boys and girls were our advance scouts: Boys earned a merit badge in automobiling in 1911, when barely one percent of the population owned a car. Girls earned one in Civics in preparation for the vote; it was renamed the Citizen badge with the ratification of the 19th amendment in 1920. Read more at source link: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/history-merit-badges-cultural-history-united-states-180970306/

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Interesting read http://mchattielaw.com/2018/11/09/scouts-trademark-infringement/

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Not long ago, an experience shooter was just quizzed and demonstrated he/she could safety shoot for group as a prereq for entry into an instructor course. The add-on BIT ,was /is usually part of an instructor course. In BIT, you learn how to "introduce a speaker" so be sure to take notes. Originally these courses were meant to train instructors who were volunteering to teach newcomers in low cost courses now it is more about the business of firearm training for profit. Depending on your area, NRA instructor and skills courses can be hard to come by, more expensive than in the past, and I think you also have to renew your instructor training or run a certain number of classes. My $0.02

I don't know how many veterans continue to serve as Scout leaders. They usually do not mention their prior service until the troop attends a Veteran's Day service or at a Scout gathering when veterans are asked to stand and be recognized...briefly. The BSA Adult Application does not ask Are you a Veteran? Perhaps it should. Maybe a new right sleeve strip VETERAN to be worn under the US flag or Veterans wear their scout uniform with the US flag blue stars forward? Wasn't there a VETERAN strip ? A more immediate and continuous recognition? My $0.01 this Veteran's Day,

The first auction of Neil Armstrong’s personal memorabilia and artifacts — including fragments of the Wright brothers’ 1903 flyer the famous astronaut took to the moon and back — brought in more than $5.2 million. Fetching the highest price — $468,500 — was an identification plate from the Apollo 11 lunar module Eagle from which Armstrong emerged in July 1969 to become the first man to set foot on the moon....his Boy Scouts field cap went for $12,000. Approximately 3,000 lots — some consisting of more than one item — are being auctioned in three parts. Before the first three-day sale began Nov. 1, Mark Armstrong said his father’s mementos included ones “that make you think, items that make you laugh and items that make you scratch your head.” Armstrong’s sons, Mark and Rick, put the items up for auction. The remaining lots will be sold on two dates in 2019, the 50th anniversary year of the Apollo 11 mission. https://www.whio.com/news/what-are-pieces-the-wright-brothers-famous-flyer-worth-auction-found-out/I91ZUL8iCVLFti6TZ5xxKL/

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Back in the day, camporee Cracker Barrels were noted for poker and fellowship (I guess it is called networking today). Most were WW2 or Korea veterans who understood "we're in this together..." Problems were discussed , resources accessed, and cooperative solutions developed outside of the camporee schedule. The next day, scouts or scouters from another troop might magically appear bearing skills and knowledge we were lacking like patrol method, Morse code or lashing. Imagine the PL of the patrol who won the camporee competition stopping by to teach our scouts. My $0.02

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Missed sales opportunity? If a parent said they were there to sign up their kid for Soccer, Band, 4-H, Girl Scouts, ...I would ask them " Say while you are here, could I tell you about our Scout program?..." Informed not confused. Not poaching either. Girl Scouts may think they have dibs on all girls coming in to join "scouts", but that is simply not true. My $0.02,

Have not seen any confusion. One group sells cookies, the other does not. Hmmm maybe that is it - some rumor that Scouts BSA will sell Scout Cookies - Slim Mints, Do-or-Don't, Trailalongs, Gilwell Grins...

I suspect they attended a ropes course at New England Base Camp (Camp Sayre) .

Apparently two-deep married ok. “Winchester Cub Scout Pack 507 (grades 1-5) has over 110 Scouts in it, making it one of the largest Cub Scout packs in the Greater Boston area,” said Matt Gordon. “I am an Eagle Scout myself and was the leader in charge of the whole Cub Scout Pack (called the Cubmaster) for the past four years and was getting ready to retire after my son, Sam, crossed over from Cub Scouts into Boy Scouts last spring.” Matt’s plans changed course, however, when his daughter, Lily, “heard me talking about how girls could join Cub Scouts starting in the fall for the first time,” which piqued her interest. Matt initially asked Lily “if she wanted to do Girl Scouts instead because honestly I was ready to retire.” After some persistence from Lily, who agreed she would recruit friends, says Matt, “my wife, Laura, graciously agreed to step up and help me out” as a den co-leader. The Gordons teamed up to start a new girls den — a small group of Cub Scouts who are the same gender and age — as part of the larger Pack 507. Matt ultimately went through with his “retirement” as Cubmaster to focus his attention on the girls den for grades 4-5 with Laura, who had not been previously been involved with Cub Scouting. The new Winchester Cub Scout den comprises eight girls and began meeting in September. Their activities have included camping in the Blue Hills Reservation, canoeing, traversing a high ropes course and outdoor cooking over a campfire. http://winchester.wickedlocal.com/news/20181106/meet-winchesters-first-cub-scout-girl-den

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Fred Hendershot (72) and Dan Swezey are Delaware's newest Eagle Scouts. Both men have been Boy Scouts their entire lives. They live at the Mary Campbell Center in Wilmington, where they completed their Eagle Scout projects. "My eagle project was a donation drive for Forgotten Cats. Their mission is to humanely reduce the homeless and unwanted cat population. The drive collected 410 cans of wet cat food, 335 pounds of dry food, 169 pounds of kitty litter and many more supplies," Fred says.Dan led a project to create science kits and a research book of experiments for the Mary Campbell Center's Saturday Science Hour.His goal now is to help others achieve the rank of Eagle Scout. Source link with video: https://6abc.com/society/eagle-scouts-dont-let-disability-stop-them-from-achieving-goals/4610717/

Full statement from Boy Scouts Lake Erie Council: Dear LEC Scouting Family, Let me begin by apologizing for not being able to communicate sooner. It has always been my approach to be immediately responsive with the hope that you would hear both good and bad news directly from the council if possible. Unfortunately, a set of evolving circumstances prevented us from a mass distribution prior to yesterday evening. By now, you are likely aware that yesterday a former adult member was arrested and charged in federal court with production of child pornography. We were disturbed to learn about and condemn these charges. Nothing is more important than the safety of our youth members and we take these charges very seriously. Upon learning of the investigation by Homeland Security, we removed this individual and prohibited him from any future participation in our programs. In addition, you have likely seen mention of an incident that occurred in June of 2017. Let me assure you that this incident was both thoroughly reviewed at the time and the appropriate action was taken. While that incident was different in scope and kind to this case, in our determination and efforts to fulfill our commitment to protecting our youth and to fully cooperate with the authorities, we were able to provide information to Homeland Security that resulted in criminal charges. The Boy Scouts of America seeks to prevent child abuse through comprehensive policies and procedures to serve as barriers to abuse. These include a thorough screening process for adult leaders and staff, criminal background checks, requiring two or more adult leaders be present with youth at all times during Scouting activities, and the prompt mandatory reporting of any allegation or suspicion of abuse. Anyone with any information on potential abuse should contact authorities to ensure the safety of our youth, in and out of Scouting. For more information about the BSA’s youth protection policies, please visit bsayouthprotection.org. We are committed to providing ongoing support to victims and their families, including counseling. We want to help victims heal, on their own terms, with a professional counselor of their choice. Through the ScoutsFirst Helpline, the Boy Scouts of America offers assistance with counseling to any youth member, former youth member, or the family of any youth member who suffered abuse during their time in Scouting. To reach the ScoutsFirst Helpline, call (844)- Scouts1 or 844-726-8871, or email scouts1st@scouting.org. In addition, if you have specific questions about this case, please contact Homeland Security at 216-749-9602. As this matter is ongoing, they are the only ones who are able to provide answers to our questions. Know that we continue to cooperate with law enforcement as they investigate this matter. Yours in service to youth and families, Marc J. Ryan Scout Executive / CEO Lake Erie Council, Boy Scouts of America https://www.13abc.com/content/news/Child-porn-charges-for-Boy-Scouts-leader-prompt-question-abotu-2017-incident-499712311.html

Update: Lake Hallie police said Monday that the deceased were: 9-year-old Jayna Kelley and 10-year-old Autum Helgeson, both of Lake Hallie, and 10-year-old Haylee Hickle and her 32-year-old mother, Sara Jo Schneider, from the Town of Lafayette. The surviving girl was hospitalized in Rochester in critical condition. ... Lake Hallie police said the driver and a passenger in the pickup truck both told investigators they had intentionally been inhaling chemical vapors (huffing) just prior to the crash. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/girls-scouts-killed-driver-colten-treu-huffing-before-crash-chippewa-wisconsin-officials-say/

That can come out when the camp director is prosecuted under Ohio 2151.421 Reporting child abuse or neglect parts a and b. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2151.421

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Another senseless tragedy. Scout farewell.