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Scout dies hiking Picacho Peak (AZ)
RememberSchiff replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Camping & High Adventure
Update May 31, 2019: The Pinal County Medical Examiner'autopsy stated Joshua White was 6ft tall, 289lbs with no known medical issues died of dehydration and hyperthermia. Their report concluded it was an accident. The medical examiner's report said the boy reportedly drank 2 quarts (2 liters) of water while climbing the peak between Phoenix and Tucson and another 2 quarts on the way down. The small group of Scouts hiked for six hours on a day when temperatures reached 96 degrees. The Pinal County sheriff's office initially said the Scouts had water when they set out but ran out at the top. The park's website recommends that hikers each carry at least 2 to 4 quarts (2 to 4 liters) of water. More at source links: https://www.12news.com/article/news/autopsy-boy-scout-died-on-hike-of-dehydration-overheating/75-6db42e10-4b40-41f4-9058-71eb688848dc https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/05/30/autopsy-arizona-scout-joshua-michael-white-died-dehydration-overheating/1289001001/- 14 replies
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ST. PETERSBURG — Freddie Lee Crawford, a former law enforcement professional who fought the City of St. Petersburg for equality in the workplace, died last Friday, May 17 at Palms of Pasadena Hospital with his family by his side. He was 81. In 1965, Crawford, along with black officers Adam Baker, Raymond DeLoach, Charles Holland, Leon Jackson, Robert Keys, Primus Killen, James King, Johnnie B. Lewis, Horace Nero, Jerry Styles and Nathaniel Wooten filed a landmark lawsuit against the St. Petersburg for discrimination on the police force. Due to their efforts to desegregate the Police Department, they would be called the Courageous 12, but they also fought to desegregate the BSA locally. Crawford and other black police officers organized a Boy Scouts troop in the black community. The national Boy Scouts organization dodged the issue of desegregation by leaving it to local councils to decide on whether or not to admit black children. Some councils admitted black youth but prohibited them from wearing the scout uniform. Fulwood remembers Boy Scout officials in Richmond, Va., once threatened to stage a public burning of Scout uniforms if black boys were permitted to wear them. “Freddie and a small group of black police went through a long obstacle course to get our charter as Troop 206, or was it 202,” said Fulwood, who couldn’t quite recall. He remembered the troop’s first camping trip in the late 60s to an unincorporated area of Pinellas Park near Clearwater. The officers were doing all of this on their own time, stealing time away from being on duty. “Once we were all camped down, Freddie and the other police officers left to go back to duty about 10 miles away. We were in an all-white area at the time, tolerated intruders on the strength of police officers – even if they were ‘colored.’ At least it was the harmless activity of camping to ‘rehabilitate some colored boys.’ “ On that fateful day, one of the boys set the woods on fire trying to light a cigarette. Fire trucks and police cars came from all over the county. Crawford, King, and other black cops came racing from St. Pete. “We never went camping again. I’m surprised, in hindsight, that they were not fired,” Fulwood said. From that point on, there were no more camping trips for the young men...on to boxing at PAL Scout Salute and Farewell, More at source http://theweeklychallenger.com/courageous-12-freddie-crawford-funeral-set-for-june-1/
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According to a police report, multiple people had fallen out of their canoes in the river’s bend near Murwin Park and were calling for help, stating that a 14 year old girl was submerged under the water. A state trooper entered the water and swam out to the victim and another teen, who was trying to rescue her. Officials say the trooper and the teen struggled to free the girl who was pinned underneath a capsized canoe and a submerged log. Authorities say once additional help arrived, the girl was freed and taken to a hospital where she later passed away. The State Patrol confirmed to 27 News Monday that everyone canoeing Saturday had life jackets on. Her brother was also swept away by the water, but he survived. .... “We have talked to some people…canoers, kayakers and they commented on how crazy this particular corner is on the Yahara River, with the obstructions, the current,” Rock County Sheriff’s Boating Recreation Deputy Chris Krahn says, who also helped in the water rescue Saturday Krahn also says just before the capsizing of two canoes with the Boy Scouts trip, four people in two other canoes made it to land after deciding it was too treacherous, and became eyewitnesses to the subsequent capsizing. Krahn says having the proper safety equipment in paddle sports can be augmented by additional training. “We would recommend you go somewhere with less current, a small local lake, or where you could walk and maybe practice these techniques, re-boarding, canoeing, kayaking and get familiar with your equipment before you come out,” Krahn says. The Rock County Sheriff’s Office now recommends paddlers stay away from the Yahara River, the Sugar River and some other bodies of water where water levels are high. Krahn and Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Chief Conservation Warden Todd Schaller say only general, boating best-practices safety announcements were released to the public prior to Saturday. https://wkow.com/news/2019/05/28/girl-who-died-when-canoe-overturned-was-part-of-boy-scout-outing/
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Boy Scouts want STEM park in South Bend, IN...
RememberSchiff replied to mrkstvns's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Wednesday on the park grounds, a methane burner stands as a reminder that the lessons learned at Fredrickson Park thus far have been learned the hard way. The land, donated by the Fredrickson family, once served as a dump. The city discovered environmental problems and spent some $800,000 to ‘cap’ the park area. Now, the Boy Scouts have marching orders to raise and spend up to $400,000 to make the park a place for kids to learn STEM lessons the easy way. Like don't build a park over a methane spewing toxic landfill. This is an EPA brownfield site. https://cfpub.epa.gov/bf_factsheets/gfs/rlf_activities.cfm?fs_id=2255&xpg_id=3068 On April 9, 2007, the City of South Bend, Indiana, made a loan of$176,000 and a sub-grant of $100,000 to the South Bend Redevelopment Commission to assist with cleanup costs associated with the Fredrickson Park North Extension. These were made possible through a $250,000 EPA Brownfields Revolving Loan Fund (RLF) grant awarded to the City of South Bend in 2004. The cleanup, which was completed in June 2007, removed contamination on the former landfill. In addition to EPA funding, the South Bend Redevelopment Commission, leveraged $1,000,000 in redevelopment funding through federal, local and private partnerships. The Fredrickson Park North Extension was redeveloped into a Boy Scouts Resource Center that opened in April, 2007. For more information about this loan or the City of South Bend EPA Brownfields Revolving Loan Fund, contact the EPA Region 5 Brownfields Coordinator at (312) 886-7576. IMHO, leave the place be and pitch your tent elsewhere. my $0.02 -
Our camp tells scouts to not bring cellphones because lack of coverage, damage/theft/loss, and program distraction. Scouts still bring their cells along with a charger pack which more than lasts the week. Our unit parents decreed their scouts can carry their cellphones for safety as they already do for school and further argue 1: from YP: "All aspects of the Scouting program are open to observation by parents" and so their scouts should be able to directly contact their parents. 2. today, the cellphone is the multi-purposed device (flashlight, camera, compass, communicatios,...) which they can always carry, whereas a pocketknife less so. So far no problems. YMMV.
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Director of Program and Operations Kenn Miller told MetroNews (that) visitors will be able to participate in all on-site activities at no cost, June 15, from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. “As I visit with friends and neighbors in the community, what I hear is, most know about the summit. Many haven’t had the opportunity to come on the site, and we’ve opened that up to many more activities,” said Miller, who said he hoped fishing enthusiasts in particular would take advantage of an experience they otherwise may not find in the area. “We’d encourage you to bring your own gear, if that’s something you’d like to do, but we do stock our lakes, and you’re going to catch some good ones, I promise.” Miller said the addition of several new permanent structures and facilities at Bechtel Summit Reserve to accommodate participants from 150 countries in the upcoming World Scout Jamboree also will provide a unique regional venue for future events, such as concerts and religious gatherings, which typically attract thousands of people, and have the potential to generate a boost in economic activity for southern West Virginia. “We’re talking to a number of large-denomination churches, some other groups, associations. What we have to offer is pretty hard to find any place else, in the size and scale that we have at the summit. So, we do believe it’s a great resource, ” he said. “We know — certainly for the World Jamboree and even our other seasonal programming — the majority of our participants have never been to the state of West Virginia, and this is their first experience, and they’re having a great time, which means they’re going to come back and they’re going to bring their friends.” More at Source: http://wvmetronews.com/2019/05/26/summit-bechtel-reserve-to-host-community-appreciation-day-ahead-of-global-scouting-event/
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Well it is still a Bill which will be debated by politicians so I put it here. IMO, the bill needs more public awareness. When it becomes law then its NEWS and I will move to Open Discussion. https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/soar-act-to-help-groups-get-outside Sound reasonable? RS
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IMHO, ideally the CO should do this as they select and approve adult leaders. But the reality for me has been the CO does not do this. Since the Program (common goal) is easier to deliver with adults who are on the same page (who then attract similar adults), the unit leader and committee have to seek and recruit those adults and possibly turn away those who volunteered first. I can recall a Pack trip to a AA baseball game. We managed to get scouts and adult leaders to attend in uniform, the fact it was Scout night with a discount helped. Hurray, easier to find and keep together. Hot night, by the third inning, I noticed some leaders who were also drivers, having a beer. Heh its a ball game, gotta have a beer! Despite existing BSA guidelines regarding alcohol, we adults could not get on the same page, so no more ball games. Now, our unit is struggling with adults who use their cellphones while driving to events with scouts. IMO, guidelines are only as good as the adults. Recruit better adults. My $0.02,
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The Simplifying Outdoor Access for Recreation (SOAR) Act, in part, would allow agencies to issue a single permit for trips that cross agency boundaries—USDA Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the Bureau of Reclamation, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service—a process that is currently time-consuming and entangled in red tape. Every year, Americans spend more on outdoor recreation than they do on pharmaceuticals and fuel, combined, the Outdoor Industry Association (OIA) reports. The outdoor recreation economy generates $887 billion in annual consumer spending, 7.6 million jobs, $65.3 billion in federal tax revenue, and $59.2 billion in state and local tax revenue—and it’s still growing. Recreation is a huge part of this country, but for a lot of people, there are still barriers to participate. Often, they turn to backcountry guides as their sole way of recreating. So why is it so hard for guides and their groups to access public lands? Senators—Martin Heinrich (D-NM) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) introduced the bill. Source: https://www.snewsnet.com/adventure-travel/senate-introduces-simplifying-outdoor-access-for-recreation-act
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"Specialist" or "Generalist" Crew --- What's More Common?
RememberSchiff replied to mrkstvns's topic in Venturing Program
Recently heard a yet another group with the BSA - Invention Scouts , not be confused with STEM Scouts. Invention Scouts is a new program developed to help today's Co-Ed youth and young adults to "Become Better Inventors". On this Website, and at Crew meetings Invention Scouts will learn new Skills, how to work within a Team, Create new Inventions and use your new skills for Community Service. When you join Invention Scouts you will become part of an Invention Team. There are one or more Teams in a Crew. The Post or Crew has a meeting place, a chartering organization, and an Adult Advisor. There is also a Crew Committee made up of parents and other adult volunteers. Each Crew and their Invention Teams will determine their Invention focus. Their focus can change over time. For example, a team could focus on inventions in fashion, or bio-medical inventions etc. http://www.inventionscouts.org/invention-scouts -
The "Right Way" to retire U.S. Flag...
RememberSchiff replied to mrkstvns's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Interesting for disposal, by law, the national flag of Argentina is to be cut in a certain way before incinerated. -
Loveland Castle, Chateau Larouche (OH)
RememberSchiff replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Open Discussion - Program
A bakery? He must have made a lot of bread to build a castle. -
The "Right Way" to retire U.S. Flag...
RememberSchiff replied to mrkstvns's topic in Open Discussion - Program
When I had my Cubs den, I was curious of the flag protocols of other countries. I did not find much beyond fly flag in proper orientation. Nothing about folding, disposal. Do other countries have written flag codes? Hopefully the upcoming World Jamboree will shed light. -
Not Quite Prepared for Philmont
RememberSchiff replied to 69RoadRunner's topic in Camping & High Adventure
Insoles help me. I wear Sole Reds now. I previously wore Superfeet Green which are popular. I had to experiment which gets expensive though less than a $400 custom orthopedic insert. This link will give you an idea of different brands. I have not bought from this online store. I buy Soles from local shoe store and Superfeet from REI. https://www.theinsolestore.com/backpacking-hiking-boot-insoles.html?foot_conditions=396 -
Did you get a belt? I'm guessing your right hand (not shown) is holding up your pants?
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Back in the '70's, the 400,000 acre Alpine Lakes Wilderness was indeed in trouble. After a dedicated advocacy push — which included presenting copies of The Alpine Lakes to every member of the Senate committee — a bill to establish the wilderness area managed to pass Congress. However, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Commerce, and the Office of Management and Budget all advised the President to veto the bill. The Forest Service even drafted veto language for him. Washington Governor Evans, a former Boy Scout, and champion of Washington’s wild places, managed to secure a meeting with President Ford. But along with it came some stern guidelines, “The President is very busy. You get 15 minutes — that’s it.” When Evans arrived in Washington D.C., he realized he was missing a key tool of persuasion, The Alpine Lakes book. He recalled that one of the Boy Scouts who had been in his troop was now living nearby in Maryland. It was worth a try. Evans gave his former troop member a call. “Have you got a copy of that book? Can you bring it to me tomorrow morning? I’m meeting with the President.” “Yes,” came the reply, “On one condition: you have to get the President to autograph it for me.” Equipped with The Alpine Lakes book, Evans walked into the President’s office. “I sat down with the President and then opened the book,” Evans recalls, “That 15 minutes turned into 45 minutes. Aides kept coming in and saying, ‘Mr. President, you have to get to the next meeting; you have to go.’ And he just kept leafing through that book, lost. You know he was an Eagle Scout, a hiker, a lover of the outdoors himself, and as a result, the Forest Service took a back seat, he signed the bill and Alpine Lakes was created." More details at source: https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/governor-evans-and-the-book-that-saved-the-alpine-lakes-wilderness
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The Great Rivers Council's Executive Director Doug Callahan said last week that a decline in fundraising revenues — which are currently 19.1 percent of the council's budgeted income — has led to the creation of a new "flat council support fee." The Great Rivers Council covers Boy Scouts of America districts in northern, northeastern and Mid-Missouri, including the Five Rivers District that includes Cole, Osage, Gasconade, Moniteau and Maries counties. The $125 council support fee is a per unit fee. Callahan said that means it applies to Cub Scout packs, Scout BSA troops or Venture troops — which are the units. The $125 will be multiplied by how many members of a unit there are at the beginning of the year — when units are rechartered in December for 2020 — and that's how much money the pack or troop will be expected to contribute in total to the council. for more confusion, here's source: http://www.newstribune.com/news/local/story/2019/may/21/local-boy-scouts-of-america-units-to-pay-council-support-fee/779620/
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Can you believe a youth leader with a some youth help, built a castle for his group? During WW1, Harry Delos Andrews was stationed as an hospital administrator in Chateau de la Roche in southern France. The posting left a lasting impression. "In the 1920s, one of Andrews’ projects was his Boy Scout-esque troop, which he named the Knights of the Golden Trail (KOGT). The group often camped along the shore of the Little Miami River, which bisects Loveland. The two plots where the group stayed were donated by families of the scouts, who obtained the land through a subscription promotion held by the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper. The KOGT spent so much time on the site that they began to leave their camping gear there, leading Andrews to want to build two stone structures as shelters. Of course, the combination of knights and stone abodes led Andrews to decide that a castle needed to be built." The Knights of the Golden Trail were said to be like a boy scout troop but based on the Ten Commandments and a Knights Code of Chivalry. Andrews refused to sell castle to Elvis Presley, and ultimately willed the castle and its ground to the Knights of the Golden Trail, who maintain it to this day. "Nothing that God ever made on the earth is more awe inspiring and heart warming than the sight of a noble youth just budding into manhood, Any man of high ideals who wishes to help save civilization is invited to become a member of the Knights of the Golden Trail." - Harry Andrews More at sources: http://mentalfloss.com/article/68755/ohios-loveland-castle-was-hand-built-midwestern-medievalist http://www.weirdus.com/states/ohio/personalized_properties/loveland_castle/index.php https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/9795 I could find no current contact information for the Knights of the Golden Trail.
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Interesting observation - rank advancement
RememberSchiff replied to Jameson76's topic in Open Discussion - Program
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As a moderator, just a kindly reminder, lets NOT personally attack a minor. Adults are the culprits here. Maybe this discussion while cogent should be moved to Issues & Politics? I think we are saying the same thing, i.e., as far as we know that Council did not cooperate in this but they did not handle it either, except for possibly calling in National at the last minute. I do not know the unit, CO, Council, or Scouters involved. I could find out, but I want to keep my BP down. IMHO, this is another fine mess that a lack of leadership got us into,. My $0.01, -
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Perhaps she was wearing her brother's shirt and her SE was out of the loop?