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Sorry if my last post addressed things you allready knew. Reread rest of posts and realized I may have missed the point.

You haven't earned a rank until after board. Unless it's Eagle that occurs within the troop. One of your jobs as Advancment chair is to arrange these boards and submit unit advancement report to council. once that is done you can get your patches .Next meeting after board is plenty immediate . If it's Eagle he's not officially an Eagle until paperwork is processed at National after his BOR. Did you get supplied with current Advancement guide (released 2011) ?can download from National website. All you need is 3 adult members for board not SM or ASM . Our troop schedules boards as soon as boy has finished SM conference . We recognise him immediatly and supply patch next meeting and at quarterly COH we recognise all for that time period,present mother's pin and boys pin then. Like others suggested if you have leftover patches it's fine to give it immediatly but if not ,waiting a week is not too bad. Our district does Eagle boards twice a month (we are a large district )

The most important thing is that the candidate sets a good example . I was a chapter advisor for 8 years and the skills section had no bearing on aproving selection. I did appreciate the section being filled out though. I used the information for recruiting adults for specific events. If we were doing a service project that would use carpentry skills it was nice to be able to be able to target people with those skills rather than blindly asking for help. Sometimes the chapter would put on merit badge clinics for district and it helped to know if person was a councilor or was in a proffesion that fit or had this as an interest.

The group that I started this about is now an Explorer post.This gives them some flexibility with uniform and program. This is a very small group with members from a couple of councils districts.They are not so much an honor society as a leadership focused unit.

It is true that my original entry was not very detailed. As things moved on I believe I clarified things pretty well. Early on I pointed out that I'd done the Web search stuff and that I was looking for anyone who had encountered group directly. It sure looked to me like you(BP) initiated the argumentative tone with Crew21.He had no problem reacting to the baiting it's true. I may of misinterpreted what was going on and I'm sorry for that.I understand that the flavor of open forum does tend toward debate so maybe I should of put it out somewhere else. Though this took twisted path to get there,I believe I got what I wanted. I now know that this is not a nationally organized group.I knew it wasn't an officially sanctioned BSA group by the lack of information available online. If it was a wide spread group I should of gotten at least one scouter on this forum to have recognized something other than vague historical reference. I now believe this to be a local group with a philosophy they are trying to push and that it's also got a political side to it. I can now feel pretty secure that my conversations with local leader will be addressing entire group. These are a group of highly valuable volunteer leaders so I want to be diplomatic when dealing with them.They are major assets as individuals but I would like to see them back off of pushing group membership as a legitimate scout credential.

I can't believe it BP.You are continuing your self righteous attack on crew21 and giving me advice on something you are clueless about.I am gathering from what I've seen so far that group is not a widely functioning BSA sanctioned group. I also I think we can tell by what's been said so far that aside from using it as an inspiration,current group has nothing to do with the original club. Aside from the structure and using membership as a scout credential I have no problem with them.They are all deeply involved scouts/scouters whose membership in club is based on a mutual concern about what they see as a watering down of Scouting program. I would not call them crackpots.All the adults I've encountered are district Award of merit recipients and put an amazing amount of energy into Scouting. I would probably not accept invitation to be member due to conflict I would feel with my positions in District and Council.I need to work within the current structure of BSA. I'm not sure if this forum is a place for me to seek input,I'm disappointed in the animosity some members show towards others.I'm also upset that my simple question would be used as a stepping off point for these personal attacks.

Actually I thought I'd made it clear that I've had direct contact with said group. "They've stated that they are not a secret society but membership is invitation from members.These people are self described elite.I've seen nothing but good from the individuals I've encountered but I'm concerned about the closed nature of organization functioning within Scouts."(earlier entry) They are people who have moved into district and are deeply involved in our activities and outdoor committee. I've expressed my concern to main person and he's agreed to sit down with me and address my concerns. I had stated in earlier entries that I was looking for anyone who may of had personal contact. My apologies for setting up situation where someone could mine it for material to start petty sniping.

Clarification:My query actually had nothing to do with Druids.The concern is a private club functioning with in scouting that uses membership as a scouting credential. I've pretty much ruled out any connection to Druidism and truthfully if the information on group was open,I would have no problem with Druid connection.

The committee does not vote on every eligible member.A nomination has to be submitted for consideration. On the point of my original question.I'm looking for people who may of had personal experience.I already performed the internet search. I'm just curious about how wide spread this group is.

The following is description I received from member. "If you have a copy of "Baden-Powell" the Two Lives of Hero by William Hillcourt (80th Birthday Edition) On page 28, there is a brief mention of the founding of the Order of Druids. Which was founded, in part by Baden-Powell, in 1873 while attending the private Charterhouse School outside London. Its from the Charterhouse Coat of Arms that the Order of Druids got its own... turning a bend sinister, the red semaphore with celtic fleur de lis over the Charterhouse Arms... Contrary to the name the Order has no affiliations with early pagans or any religious element. In fact, following the dictates of the founder, we have no bias against: age, creed, race, color, gender etc... Like the Knights of Dunamis, the Order has ranks of Knighthood, proceeding Page, Squire (aka Knight Companion), Knight and Knight Commander, with a Knight Captain running the local chapter. Anyone can be invited to join, but usually the individual must be nominated by a current member. The original charter statement, when the Order of Druids finally came to the United States reads like this... Charter Statement In so much as the Organization of Scouting, has been a shining example of all that is good and honorable with the youth of many nations, in giving selflessly of their bodies and minds for the betterment of others, and as a continuation of the Society founded in 1873 by Robert Stephenson Smyth Powell (Lord Baden-Powell, Baron of Gilwell) we herebye reinitiate the: Scouting Order of Druids The purpose of said Order, to Honor those individuals who through deeds, actions and outstanding leadership have set an example for their fellows in Scouting. Who by there very conduct and character have shown themselves to be exemplar of the Scouting Pledges: the Oath, Law, Motto, Slogan and Creed. That the members of said Order be aware of their Duty and Honor at all times, in Uniform and out, of being the best of what Scouting is and can be, stepping beyond all bias of: race, color, creed, religion, sex, age or the dictates of others. That we as a Knightly Order, do hereby pledge to re-attain the Selflessness, Esteem, Respect and Stature of those Scouts who proceeded us, and who through their actions gained such renown for the Scouting movement world wide. Let it be known then, that we as Knights' and attendants of the Scouting Order of Druids will work to increase our number, through example, leadership and good deeds throughout our lives, so that the dream of what Scouting was, and should be again, Will not fade from memory, on this we pledge our Oath as Knights."

Though the selection for Vigil committee is made up of youth members any scout or scouter can nominate Vigil Candidate

Thanks,I found that. I've been told that it originated with Baden Powell.Their stated goals are admirable but I'm concerned about their structure.From what I've gotten from the ones representing themselves as members of this group it has nothing to do with Druidism. They've stated that they are not a secret society but membership is invitation from members.These people are self described elite. I've seen nothing but good from the individuals I've encountered but I'm concerned about the closed nature of organization functioning within Scouts.

Does anyone know anything about a group called the Scout Order of Druids?

Definitely.This is not the kind of policy I'd make an issue about enforcing.

their explanation says that decision was made after asking some Native Americans but it doesn't say if these represented persons who had any other credentials other than blood lines.They may have gotten different feed back if they asked a different set of people. The ceremonialists I know don't feel comfortable using "Costume"