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None in our troop are doing this. Either in protest of policy or fee changes, or to skate by without having to earn cooking. But, we've made it clear that our SM's have never kicked a gay kid to the curb and would never do so. Period. Cut his pay if it bothers you. I've also pointed out that most Christian youth groups I know (and any that I associate with) do not as policy prohibit LGBT youth. So, I don't know where they think they are leaving to. We're a small troop, so if a few boys hustled up and earned it by the end of the year, that would be fine by me. I would suggest that they turn in their uniform to someone else who will wear it with pride, and ask if we really have to order them the patches for a CoH that they will not want any existing members (by virtue of their complicity) to participate in.

It's like I have an evil twin (who types faster than me)!

Who knows? Had they kept their uniforms on, you might have had yourself a venturing crew for the day!

One more suggestion: ask a relative or neighbor. Sometimes a hand-me-down adds to the mystique. For the longest time when I was in high school and college, I carried my Grandpa's knife. Really lousy blade, truth be told. But every time I pulled it out, I had fond memories of him whittling his cane and thereby driving Mom nuts!

Anything that folds neatly and the handle fits tidily in the boy's hand will do. Going to the sporting goods store (or section) is part of the adventure IMHO. In department stores, it's usually just an isle beyond the toy section. Kinda fun watching a boy change his preferred isle as he grows.

Actually, in many survival situations, you don't have much for an axe. So, for the first night or so your shelter is necessarily deadfall, flotsam, and jetsam.

Have the SPL call the camp ranger about acceptable use. He/she should be able suggest a preferred site. For example, an OA circle may need to be cleared, so, losing a few saplings here and there would be doing them a favor. Frankly, nearly everything in Florida grows back so rapidly, there may be cuttings for the taking. Just talk to the right people.

If you are proud of your uniform. Wear it. It's the best you can do. The second best you could do is have a chocolate bar for every boy who is in uniform at dinner and/or flags.

A grey area: parents can serve as Akela. But, I'm not saying take the DL out of the loop, certainly as we move into Webelos we want the parents to take a lesser role. But, if it is truly a situation where the boys feel like you "dumped" this lanyard project on them, you want the help of the parents to encourage them to think of something else. If it's just that they haven't made any effort, then pulling up other projects is just wasting your breath and their time.

If the boys decided they hate lanyards and ask you to come up with another project, maybe you should. But, if they are just shrugging their shoulders, it's on their parents to think of another project that they should do. They might want their boys to make a holiday decoration or gift for a teacher (or maybe for those talented sisters ). This falls under the "listen to the youth" aspect of scouting. You're not really dictating assignments. You're making suggestions based on where you think they would like to expand their talents. At the end of the day, if the youth would rather not do anything: no problem, no achievement, no recognition.

One early bird from Son #1's den stayed and Eagle'd at 16. He did stop attending scouts for a few months, but came back ready to do dig in an do the work. Then his dad found a job in warmer climes and the family moved away.

Just so you know, in general I have seen very few troops that excel at nighttime insertions. Younger scouts are not particularly good at following patrol leader's direction in the dark. If this troop is new to the boy-led approach, older boys can be resentful of the responsibility foisted on them. As a result everyone is less attentive to everyone else's needs. Keep an open mind. For some families, this may still be the troop for them.

I gave this to the ASPL and said "You may want to read this at some point in the meeting." After looking it over, the poor boy (a soft-hearted fellow) was mortified because he thought it was an E-mail I received about our troop! (Why he would thing this when we haven't had an entire den of Webelos on a weekend with us for years, is beyond me.) He was quite relieved when I explained it was about someone else far away in internet land. One very important sign of proper training, IMHO, is if the SPL and other older boys take time to introduce themselves to the parents and check in on them on a regular basis.

I'm sorry. If it's any consolation, I'll have my boys read this as a cautionary tale for when they invite Webelos to camp with them. On the flip side, you have a good idea of how that troop operates. I hope you and your boys will take up those invites and be able to make a fair comparison.

Hey DJ13, I'm a WHCS alumnus living north of you pretty close to the "seat of power" (a.k.a. Flag Plaza). Nice to know that boys are still crossing over in Central Greene! If you're talking about the Beascout.org site you should have access to change that via your MyScouting account. I did it once upon a time but forget how. However, you may have to contact your DE. Or call the folks at Flag Plaza (412-471-2927). They got people who are pretty good with the IT, given the Byzantine monstrosity they are having to work with.

BBF, Webelos is perfect for 8, 9, or 10 year-olds. Treating an11 year old like he should still be in a Webelos program needs is insulting. Treating a 14 year old like that is degrading. Myself, I don't use the term "Webelos III." I just promise a boy that I will never treat him like he's a girl scout. And, GS mom's, when I do that I am not insulting your troop (if they are camping - under canvas or less - every month out of the year).

This falls under the category of "nobody knows your boys like you do." There is absolutely no reason on paper that this should be an issue if they are first class scouts (the concept, not the patch). But, if you have a boy who hasn't grown out of that firebug stage, or a boy who seems to weaponize every sharp he holds, an adult may need to at least drop in on them (maybe with warm drinks and pizza) at random intervals. If someone is blowing smoke for seemingly no reason, you may need to ask them what experience they are basing this on, and be prepared to explain how these boys are different.

E441, depends on the troop. Like Stosh mentioned, his troop operates in the field pretty much independent of the SPL/ASPL. Our troop is like that too most months. (This term, the SPL has disabilities that limit his participation, so the ASPL is "the guy" for outdoor activities.) Other troops, if the ASPL is absent -- especially if the SPL does not arrange for someone to fill in for the SPL, things start to fall apart. Like BD, the issue is more one of Loyalty. And this applies to every first class scout. How are you showing your loyalty to the troop? My SM and I ask that of every scout in the troop. We really don't care about the patch you have on your sleeve.

Hanukkah, eh? How about a fire-starting kit? Candle lantern? Head lamp? What would be best depends on your child's personality. Plus there's a lot of cub-scout things to do before March. So, don't forget things like fixings for a pinewood derby kit, or whatever else may be on your pack's agenda. Another neat gift: parachord and a knot guide.

Hey, I managed multinational multicenter clinical trials outta my cube! :0

That may be so for TM. Other races allow teens with parental consent. Our local orienteering club had one (a rogain) that my more senior scouts were welcome to try. Problem is, those typically have a participation limit, so you don't want to take up a spot that some proper enthusiast could fill. It should really be reserved for select scouts.

Several friends ran Pittsburgh's Tough Mudder. One lady at church came to me for some orienteering pointers because one part of the course had a compass component. Adventure racing is attractive to a couple of my venturers. The time-commitment is the big issue.

Correspondence (letter, phone, or in-person): E.g., to/from scouters like who mist roundtable and need a rechartering packet. To potential corporate donors regarding how to support scouting in their neighborhood. To unit FOS coordinators making sure they have what they need. To potential chartered organizations to ask if they are interested in starting a unit. To youth who may have never heard about the programs available to them through scouting. Or they should be meeting with adults/youth who volunteer for any of the above. Really and truly, DE's job is to be meeting. It's only a matter of whom.

No problem wearing field uniform in public. So if I'm on my way to a school event from a meeting I don't bother changing out of it. But when I was a kid, I lost a few uniforms (one was shredded mercilessly for the win of a round of British Bulldog first night of Troop Leadership Training week, one was from theft at Jambo -- I think for our lodge patch), since then ... I rarely wear it on unit trips and hikes. Never wore it rock-climbing or backpacking. November through April it's under layers of clothing so never saw the point. Never on service projects. Always on camporees, etc ... (I make sure I don't have minimal bling to discourage sticky fingers.) If I manage to pick up some suitable pants and shirts for $10 a set, I might consider wearing them on outings. Otherwise I'm saving my dimes for one of them dress uniforms (i.e. the adult "Class A" if you were to parallel military forms).

TT, by administration, I mean leading PL's in establishing program. For example, in the troop I grew up in, SPL lead campfires. It was just part of the unwritten job description. In Sons' troop, the SPL finds out if the boy needs to be MoC for communications MB, or appoints a really charismatic scout, gets a rough outline ahead of time, and let's the campfire run itself. SPL chills (this summer, that meant sitting back and playing his guitar for background). ASPL (who was Son #2 at camp this year) did not need to do much but be a member of his patrol until SPL had to leave a day early). The past two summers both SPL/ASPL had already racked up enough POR hours for their next rank. So their was no "lording" advancement over them. SM told them what needed to be done. They made it happen ... cheerfully. This fall there was a breakdown because of commitments to sports and academics, so Son #2 suggested the troop elect two boys who've never held the position and will turn 18 early next year. They did. Again, neither boy needs the position for the next rank, yet SM and I have every reason to expect the best of them.