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I thank each and every one of you for your help and advise. It's because of scouters like all of you that makes it better for all of us. I will have a sit down heart to heart with SM and let you all know how it goes............Thanks

Scoutnut, yes I have taken SLSP and IOLS training. and every other training I hear of, this is why I do not agree with the way the troop is run. As for the boy led troop I brought that up at to the instructor at U of S. He said his troop is only at 8 scouts right now but he still lets them lead and choose what they want to do. This SM will not. Camping in a farmers woods close to SM's church is not a fun campout. How can these scouts draw in others when they never do anything exciting. They are not even attending the spring camporee. And no moose I am not in my 20's I am 57 and have been with the troop for a year or so. I continue to be there waiting for something to happen as far as camping. As I said I am an Eagle, and thinking back to my days in scouting (from cub scout thru boy scouts) if there had been no camping I would not have stayed in, camping in exciting places is what it was all about for me.

Oh yeah, one more thing. as far as trained I have taken every online course the B.S.A. has and have attended the University of Scouting will soon take woodbadge. I am 57 and a little rusty and the courses really help.

Moose to reply to a cpl things. I have no son's I returned to scouting because as I said I am a Eagle scout and I owe them a lifetime worth of memories. I do not think things will change so maybe I will look for another troop in a few months. I really hate to leave because there is always that hope you can change things for the better.

To clarify a little, First off I will say this SM is a my way or highway kind of guy. As for the committe, there is none, I have been involved with this troop for a year there has never been a committe meeting. I think the ghost committe that is there is in name only. They let the SM run things..all things including funds. One of the committe members is the pastor of the church the meetings are held at, I have never met him. When there is a campout it is always local and close to the SM's church. There has never been a PLC meeting and the SPL hardly ever attnds meetings or campouts/hikes the troop is down to 7 boys, 5 active every week.

Yes the troop is at a church but it is not the church they are made to go to. Why not just a service on sunday at the campsite.

I have kind of a problem I could use help with. I am a leader at a local B.S.A. troop. The SM at this troop does all the planning of outings, boys have very little input. Not much of a boy lead troop. Also SM insists all scouts go to church on sunday during campouts. Some of the boys are not of his faith and some do not attend church at home but are made to go during campouts. I myself am a firm beliver in our Lord but this is driving kids out and I do not feel I can do anything. I am an Eagle scout myself and think we should not force one certin religion on these kids. There is a diffrence between Reverent and force. Any help out there on this one.