oldman

Thanks folks, Just as when I posted before, the replies cover a wide range and are all helpful. Our opening ceremony begins with a flag already in position and the boys crowded forwards away from the folding chairs sometimes to within two feet of the flag. So those farthest from the flag and on the front would not easily see it if they faced forward. And so when everyone faces the flag, they are at different angles. I can see that backing up would help both. On the other hand, I've noticed at summer camp the last several years some scouts and scouters face ahead and some face the flag. I suppose jblake's comic description is the default position,with instruction added. Oldman

This is not a big deal, I think, but here goes. When the troop is formed in patrols for the opening, should they face forward when they salute and pledge the flag, do they face forward and turn their heads toward the flag, or do they (as our boys are starting to do, including the SPL)turn their entire bodies toward the flag? Oldman

Thanks everyone. I was motivated by my desire to help the boys advance, concern by parents of former cubs that after a month their sons had not gotten rank advancement and an awareness that doing anything consistently for thirty days is the hardest task for a boy that age. But as Lisabob and most everyone pointed out, that's only learned by doing it. Some of you said it might vary by case. (My Eagle son's former W2 den did the physical activities every day for thirty days; the other W2 den in our pack only did them at meetings.) But I'll stick with the strict constructionist reading so that all boys will be treated the same Oldman

English Professor at a small religious university. Though I teach a linguistics course and acouple of medieval courses, my bread and butter is English composition and Ancient World Lit. Washing dishes at Walgreens, cutting virginia creeper and poison ivy for my high school chemistry teacher, and preaching to a country church of twelve people certainly had nothing to do with earning a living. Like my father before me, I advanced to first class ( he in the 30s, I in the 50s--after five years of hard work). My older son dropped out after Weblos; my younger went from Tiger to second class, dropped out, came back and made Eagle. After serving on the pack committee and then as ASM, I became SM several years ago when our then SM moved away and the other scouters didn't want the job and promised to help me. They kept their word.

For boys crossing over with AOL, can the four weeks of activities required for the physical fitness award be counted for the requiremet for Tenderfoot? In an earlier Webelos book I was reading, boys were told to take their book to their new SM to show what Tenderfoot requirements they had already fulfilled. This passage has not been in recent Webelos books and is not in the HB. Has policy changed? Does everyone understand this without it being written? Or am I not getting something?

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Thanks to all for the postings. Part of our problem is that our old but small troop only began having a committee (as far as I know) three years ago. Before that everything was done by the SM. With a new SM I became CC. Now I am SM, and all the adults who are willing to give time more than meeting night, want to camp and work with the boys. They are mostly registered as ASMs. Strict construction of the rule would gut our committee. Should we then ask most of the ASMs to transfer their registration, though they are all program oriented, not policy oriented? Oldman

One of the ASMs in our troop told me today that s committee member dad informed him that he could not be on a BR because he was an ASM and that none of the ASMs could be on the committee. Is this true?

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