OldGrayOwl

The second one is a Yoda saying: $DO || ! $DO ; try try: command not found Do or do not. There is no try

What we have done at a camporee is to get some fake wound stuff from a costume shop and build up some wounds. Then we instruct the Scouts to fake an injury while a patrol is at a camporee station, doing something else, NOT first aid related. We would then evaluate how well the other patrols would react and give first aid to the "hurt" scout, right down to opening up the station's first aid supplies of bandages, etc. It worked out rather well. We had some patrols that did nothing, while we had others that jumped in and gave proper first aid. OGO

Mountain Dew Peach Dump Cobbler 2 (30 oz.) cans sliced peaches 1 can Mountain Dew, Sprite or 7Up 1 yellow cake mix; dry stick butter Ice cream of your choice 1. Into a 12" Dutch oven add peaches and spread out. 2. Stir in 1/3 cup instant tapioca. 3. Pour cake mix over peaches then pour the soda over the cake mix. 4. (optional) Stir to mix completely. 5. Dot top with butter 6. Place lid on oven. 7. Bake for 45 minutes to an hour using 12 briquettes top and 12 briquettes bottom. 8. Rotate oven one direction 90 and lid the opposite way, 90 every 15 minutes. Serve warm with ice cream. Serves: 8-10 The Scouts like ANYTHING with Mountain Dew in it, and it gives it a nice balance against the sweetness of the peaches.

Does anyone have limits as to how much each Scout should have to pay for food for a weekend campout? Our troop committee is trying to set a limit of $15.00/Scout/weekend camping trip. I believe that it should be up to the Scouts as part of their meal planning.

This could work either as a SM minute or for a Scouts Own Service: A man was exploring caves by the Seashore. In one of the caves he found a canvas bag with a bunch of hardened clay balls. It was like someone had rolled clay balls and left them out in the sun to bake. They didn't look like much, but they intrigued the man, so he took the bag out of the cave with him. As he strolled along the beach, he would throw the clay balls one at a time out into the ocean as far as he could. He thought little about it, until he dropped one of the clay balls and it cracked open on a rock . Inside was a beautiful, precious stone! Excited, the man started breaking open the remaining clay balls. Each contained a similar treasure. He found thousands of dollars worth of jewels in the 20 or so clay balls he had left. Then it struck him. He had been on the beach a long time. He had thrown maybe 50 or 60 of the clay balls with their hidden treasure into the ocean waves. Instead of thousands of dollars in treasure, he could have taken home tens of thousands, but he had just thrown it away! It's like that with people. We look at someone, maybe even ourselves, and we see the external clay vessel. It doesn't look like much from the outside. It isn't always beautiful or sparkling, so we discount it. We see that person as less important than someone more beautiful or stylish or well known or wealthy. But we have not taken the time to find the treasure hidden inside that person. There is a treasure in each and every one of us. If we take the time to get to know that person, and if we ask God to show us that person the way He sees them, then the clay begins to peel away and the brilliant gem begins to shine forth. May we not come to the end of our lives and find out that we have thrown away a fortune in friendships because the gems were hidden in bits of clay.

Here is one that I have used both as a SM Minute and as a short, "on the trail" message: Hot Chocolate Wisdom A group of Eagle Scouts, well established in their careers, were discussing their lives at a Troop reunion. They decided to go visit their old Scoutmaster, now retired, who was always an inspiration to them. During their visit, the conversation turned to complaints about stress in their work, lives and relationships. Offering his guests hot chocolate, the Scoutmaster went into the kitchen and returned with a large pot of hot chocolate and an assortment of cups. Some cups were porcelain, glass, crystal, some plain looking, some expensive, some exquisite. He invited each to help themselves to the hot chocolate. When they all had a cup of hot chocolate in hand, the Scoutmaster shared his thoughts. "Notice that all the nice looking; expensive cups were taken, leaving behind the plain and cheap ones. While it is normal for you to want only the best for yourselves, that is the source of your problems and stress. The cup that you are drinking from adds nothing to the quality of the hot chocolate. In most cases it is just more expensive and in some cases even hides what we drink." "What each of you really wanted was hot chocolate. You did not want the cup . . . but you consciously went for the best cups, leaving the plain ones behind." "Now friends, please consider this . . . "Life is the hot chocolate . . . your job; money and position in society are the cups." "They are just tools to hold and contain life." "The cup you have does not define, nor does it change, the quality of life you are living." "Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the hot chocolate God has provided us." Always remember this . . . . . . . . . . God brews the hot chocolate; He does not choose the cup. The happiest people don't have the best of everything. They just make the best of everything that they have!! Leave the rest to God. ~ and remember ~ The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

I used to be an Owl, a good ol' Owl too, But now I've finished Owling, I don't know what to do, I'm growing old and feeble and I can Owl no more, So I'm going to work my ticket if I can Back to GILWELL, happy land! I'm going to work my ticket if I can NE-IV-183

pre-District BOR???? I never heard of such an animal. Could you explain what that means, please?

Thanks for all of your inputs. Backstory is that I have a VERY active CR that would like very much to sit in on some of the Scouts EBOR, since he has been with them for a very long time. I was informed by the chair of the EBOR that the CR CANNOT sit on the board. I figured that he could, so I wanted to check with you-all to find out where it might be written as to who may and may not sit on the board. Thanks again.

Do you have a place where it is written down that a COR may sit on the Board?

Who can sit on them and where is it written? I know that parents, relatives or the SM or the ASM cannot, but other than them, who is permitted to participate on an Eagle Board of Review? Can a Charter Rep sit on the Board?

Next time, when ever you all have a long link to post, try using www.tinyurl.com to paste your long link into. This site will then take the long link and drop it down to about 26 characters. John

Thanks, From one Owl to another owl.

Can anyone give me info about Scouts camping at the Maryland Patuxent Naval Air Station? Thanks

PeteM, What troop are you with? Sure would like to meet another Scouter.com person. Please PM me, Thanks

I was the Event Director of the Camporee, and other than that and other weather related delays, the event went along very well. OGO

I asked him what was going on and he said that he just doesn't like having kids tell him what to do. He thinks that only adults should be the ones to tell him what to do. I explained that this isn't Cub Scouts any more where the adults are the ones doing the leading, but Boy Scouts, where it is the youth that are doing the leading. He just doesn't like that. This past weekend he went to great pains to avoid any task that the patrol leader asked him to do, even the tasks on the duty roster. I explained the patrol method to him, but he doesn't want to buy it.

What do you do with a Scout that won't work with his patrol, in fact he goes way out of his way to get out of the work assigned to him be his patrol leader? He gets to work when he sees an adult coming over to him, but when there are no adults within sight, he just goofs off and is belligerent to his patrol leader.

What we use is the clothes-pin method. All of the Scouts have their name on a clothes pin. These pins are dropped into a bag or a hat, then the pins are shuffled around. The driver of a vehicle then takes out as many pins as there are seats in his vehicle. If the trip is a long one, we then, when we get to a first stop, do the same thing again. This helps keep cliques from forming, as well as giving the Scouts an opportunity to learn about their fellow Scouts. The driver knows who is supposed to be in his vehicle by simply looking at the clothes pins. (edited for spelling)(This message has been edited by oldgrayowl)

Reason that it (and many other articles of clothing) shrink while hanging in the closet is something called "outgassing". It seems that the materials used in the manufacture of clothing give off gasses long after they are manufactured, and it is these gasses that when allowed to accumulate in a closed environment like a closet, actually cause the molecules in cloth to contract around the atoms in the cloth elements, making them denser as well as smaller.

Does anyone know if these are still avaliable, the leg garters that is and if so, where can I get them? Thanks OGO

Does anyone know if these are still avaliable?

Why would TheScout even WANT the blue cards???

SilverFoxNEIV95, How is the WB reunion working out? Sounds like to would be a real hoot (oops, there is that OWL thing again) to attend. (Maybe the SE needs to attend Wood Badge in another council so he won't be trained by those that he is in charge of, sorta like a boss being trained by one of his employees).

Well, in talking to him, he wants to drop out. We (his SPL and I), are trying to get him to understand that Scouting is not just about camping, but a lot of other activities. He seems to be a loner, not one that likes to socialize with others. He also seems to be having a problem with youth leadership. He has told me that the adults can do a much better job of running meetings, Scout outings, etc. than the youth, so why have the youth do it. (I have explained to both him and his parents about youth leadership and why BSA does it the way that they do. His parents understand, but the Scout does not. (I guess that since he is home schooled and his circle of friends is limited to those younger than he is has a lot to do with it, but I am only guessing.