nldscout

What district are you in CNYScouter?

If I was a betting man, I would bet that they cars were not stolen. While I agree it was a hair brained idea to display them the way they were, I bet they were swept up with the trash and dumped and now no one wants to admit it.

gazerstar I would correct one thing. This time we have been told MB midway will only be open to paid participants. There was a lot of complaints in 01 and previous years that paid participants were being cut out of activities by day trippers, some of which came almost every day. They are closing a lot more stuff to daytrippers this time I know some may disagree with this, but the scouts that paid to attend should not have to compete with non paying attendees

I hate to say it, but I am betting a lot of them got thrown in trash by cleanup crew

Subcamp 3 already has it marked on website. supposed to be turned on on monday the 25th. We are trying to schedule a time that our troops line up infront of it and waves to parents at home. We will notify parents of time and place

Enter into a licensing agreement like the commercial companies did, pay them and they will be surprisingly cooperative

I would venture its because they do not want any claims of favoritism. The commercial guys paid for the information and paid to get certified as compatable. So national isn't going to give it away for free.

well I for one would still like to know the incident that was refered to in the initial posting

I would say in the 150-200 range based on the type of grumman it is. If its a lightweight one with the thin aluminum I would say less, they don't take use well. The older grummans hold value well. If it has not been in water for a while I would float it for an hour or so the seal on centerline may leak which is hard to reseal.

Owl, What brand of tent?

In order to make a judgement you need to tell us what this offense to being morally straight was. Its hard to judge without know what your refering to.

E, While this sounds ok from the outset in order to be acceptable this is what the Military Police at AP Hill told me personnally back in May. "AP Hill PM stated they have not set a minimum standard except it must be from an official source. They stated they are not going to be rigid as to type but must contain certain info. Name, age, Discription, photo, and signiture. That is exactly what the local base said also. Both people liked the idea of the membership card with photo and personnal info on back, but card had to be laminated so as to be tamper proof." In addition to picture you need the other info.

Some subcamps aleady have it arranged. Sub camp 3 in NE region already has it set up on their website. Not sure how many others do also. We are trying to arrange a time for the whole troop to appear as a group to wave to Mom and dad from Jambo

If you only count the days after a scout says I want to do Camping then very few would get it. If you use any of the automated tracking programs, like Troopmaster, it counts camping days from the day he joins the troop. And I would not count a day hike as Backpacking.

There is no pre signup for MB's at NSJ. You must be a registered paid participant, go to the MB Booth's you want to do , show Jambo ID and sign-up. Its first come, first served, and the popular ones fill up quick. But don't go to Jambo to do MB's, Go there for all the things there is too do. This is not summer camp where MB's are the theme. If there is a special one that you want that you cannot get at home, then by all means take it. The MB counselors there are all first rate experts and do a super job, But don't make MB's the reason for attending Jambo. In 01 we encouraged the scouts in our NSJ troop to pick one unusual one and do it, like Rail roading, space, Atomic science....

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I ran into our CE today, in our council the registered leader must be from the group that is on the tour permit. Thats his reading of it.

We have a rule in our troop. If you want a chair to sit in, bring your own or sit on a log.

I would have to disagree. My reading of G2SS is one must be registered in the unit.

While I am not a fan of BIG thick by-laws or troop rule books. I do beleive a troop needs some rules that members and parents can understand. The SM is wrong in saying that he must sign it to be in effect. Writing by-laws is a committee decision, not the SM. If the majority of the committee approves it then its a done deal. And the SM is appointed by the COR and CC, that is a BSA rule. That being said if 1 of 2 is leaving in a month, and the other is leaving in November, wait them out. Then write new bylaws. My feeling is if it more than 3 pages it tooooooo much and no one will read it.

I would like to correct one thing that was said. The application does not need to be turned in to district by the 18th birthday, a scout only has to complete the advancement requirements by that time. He could turn it in after his birthday and still get eagle. 90 days after for BOR with no explaination, 180 days with CE explaination.

They are supposed to do what they did in 2001. They are planning on turning it over to a commercial auction company who will place it in lots and action it off for the national council. The only problem was the size of the lots in 2001. 200 coolers, 2-300 toasters, 25 canoes, etc.... Unless your a big outfit or a reseller it was kind of useless to bid.

yes he can earn eagle as explained below. This is nothing new, its been like this since the start of venturing. Any male Venturer who has achieved the First Class rank as a Boy Scout in a troop or Varsity Scout in a team may continue advancement toward Star, Life and Eagle Scout ranks up to his 18th birthday. He must meet the requirements as prescribed in the official Boy Scout Handbook and the current Boy Scout Requirements book. The Venturer may fulfill leadership requirements by serving as president, vice president, secretary, or treasurer of his crew, or as boatswain, boatswain's mate, yeoman, purser, or storekeeper for his ship. The Scoutmaster conference will be conducted by the Advisor or Skipper. As the Venturer meets requirements for the Star and Life ranks, a board of review will be conducted by the crew or ship committee. The Eagle board of review should follow the procedures established by the local council.

Our Troop 21 in Northern New York goes swiming in Pool during winter atleast every other month. Plus we do our begining Canoe Training inn the High School Pool. We usually do this in the early spring when it would be impossible to do it in a lake due to water temprature. It works good as you can flip canoes and right them and not worry about hypothermia.

KS and others KS, you got it almost right. For those of you who have never worked with this let me give you the full discription of how it works and how to screen and obtain property. The process for surplus from the Entire Department of Defense all goes to the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service or DRMS. DRMS runs The DRMO's which are the local offices world wide. Once an Item is turned over to the DRMO it enters a 14 day DOD screening cycle, during this time only DOD can requisition the items. After 14 days DOD then it goes 21 days of GSA screening which any federal agency can requisition the items. After this it goes to a 7 day donation cycle which the State Agencies for Surplus Property or SASP can put in a bid for the item. If more than one SASP asks for an item then a central office in NY deceides which stae gets the item. After it is allocated to a state then the state can sub allocate to any eligable Town, city, of Non-profit that has registed with them. If you obtain an item you must retain it and cannot dispose of it with out permissin for 12 to 18 months depending on the item. After that you can do anything you wish with it. In order to participate you must be registered with your Local SASP. What is required to register differs from state to state. You must pay the SASP a small user fee for items obtains , but these are usually negotible with them and are very minor, usually. Now screening of items, you do not have to physically go to the DRMO to screen items. Screening can be done on line at http://www.drms.dla.mil/asset/govegeo.html When screening there are lots of ways to look at it as you can see on the web. Part of the secret is to look at what is in the GSA cycle not the donation cycle. If you look at GSA cycle you see what is coming up, when it hits donation its almost to late to ask your SASP to bid on the item. It is a very good program, I screen for 3 local councils in the NY area. Just as an example of what you can get here is a partial list of what we have obtained in the last few years. Metal beds and mattresses for camps Row Boats and trailers Pickup trucks Canoes and canoe trailers Tentage Heaters Snow Shoes Skis Computers and printers Office supplies Tools Generators and the list goes on. Troops and councils can save vast amouts of money by using the program, but you have to look at it at least weekly in order to see whats out there and available. If I have confused you totally send me a private message and I will try to help you out. NLDSCOUT