Off-subject, I know, but I always like to chime in when we discuss shooting the professionals. I scout in one of the largest districts in the country and, in my 8 years as a volunteer, I've worked with 6 different DE's. Some years we have 2, and some years we have 0. There have been some who needed shooting, some (my least favorite) who were experts in telling you what you wanted to hear, and some who I thank God for the priveledge of working with. I think the secret to a good volunteer-professional relationship is very simple. The pros need to remember that the Council/District belongs to the volunteers and the pros are here to facilitate us. The volunteers need to remember that the pros are working 50-100 hours a week for half (or less) of what they could make at a "real" job. If we keep all that in mind, the program runs well and everyone is happy (except of course for the spouses of the pros AND the volunteers!).