Thanks for the replies. One thing I don't understand though. How can they be two different units? You need a Cubmaster for the Pack and a Scoutmaster for the Troop. It is all under the same # and chartered by the same organization. Maybe I should have made that clearer in my first post. So he has control over almost the whole organization. Eamonn, I thank you and totally agree. Sometimes Adults set the poorest example. I have told them all this and that Adults should not be going and back stabbing each other to get what they want. This is all for the boys and without them there would be no Pack or Troop.