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EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY Brotherhood Time Requirement Change
Miami_Chief replied to Eagle94-A1's topic in Order of the Arrow
I don't see this as having a major impact one way or another. Does it make things a little easier, yes. Do I think the Brotherhood conversion experience will be significantly cheapened? Absolutely not. It's certainly not a silver bullet that will solve our dwindling numbers, but it's not going to kill us any faster either. We can play the "it was better in my day because it was tougher and therefore more meaningful" game forever, or we can roll up our sleeves and help support the youth officers in delivering the program. Looking over the PMP it really just looks like a simplified JTE with a shiny new name, breaking it down easier for the Lodge Officers who should be running the program. I'm ok with that. How many Units skip out on JTE just so they don't have to fill out the scoresheet? -
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What most will call a "Class B" is also referred to as an Activity Uniform, and while it's much less formal that the FIeld Uniform, it's still a uniform, and can still look very sharp. I don't buy that they're angling to get rid of uniforms, but I understand why they would emphasize it less in the marketing. It's an important method of the program, but I imagine very few youth are signing up because of the BSA's spiffy threads. They're selling the sizzle, putting the focus on the cool things the BSA offers in order to draw them in.
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I was a part of a Broken Arrow ceremony a few years back in my old Council. It was a very unique and meaningful experience. The brother who passed was a former Lodge Adviser and Camp Ranger. Our Lodge at the time did not have a very strong ceremonies program, so our Scout Executive asked myself and another "youthful" adult to conduct the ceremony. While an actual youth would have been preferred, we didn't want to have one of the youth try to stumble through it given the solemn nature of the occasion. The only regalia we donned were headdresses. It was unlike any ceremony experience I had before or since.
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Family Scouting Coming to You!
Miami_Chief replied to Eagle94-A1's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Our Council has been doing "Family Camps" over Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend for years. The program varied depending on who was organizing it and what camp staffers they could round up to help out. This year they're also planing to do a program similar to the one posted above. As I see it, it's not an attempt to replace the traditional resident camp, but to supplement it. Are they "desperate to get users to the camp property?" Maybe. I'm not sure what their attendance looks like and I'm not familiar with the stats for my own area either. But last I checked getting more people to experience the programs our camps offer isn't a bad thing, and if it helps the bottom line and allows a camp to continue to provide programs in the future, I'm all for that. -
Should I attend an out of council WB course?
Miami_Chief replied to Cyclone's topic in Wood Badge and adult leader training
After college I moved out of state for 3 years, and while there took WB in 2015. It was fantastic and I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. After moving back, I have discovered how "cliquey" and odd the Woodbadgers are in my home Council. There have been a number of "local traditions" that distract from the course and I have a number of friends my age (late 20s-early 30s) that are so turned off by WB that they have no interest in looking into it. I was asked to be on staff for an upcoming course, and the SM is pretty serious about doing things "by the book" so I'm super excited! -
NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies
Miami_Chief replied to John-in-KC's topic in Order of the Arrow
As a youth ceremonialist, I throughly enjoyed conducting Cub AOL and crossover ceremonies. The regalia was neat, but as others have said, to me it was just a tool that we used to help achieve our aims. If we can’t provide the recognition and inspiration to the Cubs without feathers on our heads, we’re doing something wrong. Beyond that, most Cub Packs will turn over most, if not all leaders within a 6-10 year period. Some even faster. What is “new” in 2019 will be “we’ve always done it this way” by 2025. It’s not going to shock me when they announce regalia is going away altogether. While the Native American elements have been a vital part of our image, it’s not who we are at the core. Our principles remain unchanged. If they were to announce that they are dropping Brotherhood, Cheerfulness, or Service, sign me up to protest, but until then we should focus on fulfilling our Obligation. -
The regional governors now have direct control over their territories.
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Young District/Council Volunteers
Miami_Chief replied to 4CouncilsScouter's topic in Council Relations
As a young adult (18-20) I wasn't too involved outside of my OA and camp staff roles, but there were a few times I ran up against the "You're just a kid and don't know what you're doing" mentality of some of the more seasoned volunteers. But because of the skills and fun experiences I had as an OA officer and camp staffer, I knew I wanted to keep coming back. After graduation I was given the opportunity to serve as a professional scouter a couple states away. While I'm sure some volunteers in my district questioned my age and experience at first, over time I believe I had a great working relationship with most of the folks in my area. It was frustrating in some cases to have to "prove myself" to a few individuals, but by and large it was a fantastic experience. Flash forward to my late twenties and after a career change I'm back in my hometown and it's been a mixed bag of getting involved as a "relatively young" adult. There are some scouters that have difficulty seeing past the 15-year old me who ran an OA election for their troop years ago, but there are others who I have stronger relationships with that have more appreciation for what I can bring to the table. Bottom line is I would not still be involved if it wasn't for those experiences I had while in the (18-20) zone. That's when I started working on Camp staff and when my enthusiasm and energy were at their peek. Any way you can harness folks in that range to keep them coming back is definitely worth it. -
Councils vary on when they administer the recharter process. Sometimes even within a Council each District has a different month and occasionally not all of the Units within a District recharter at the same time. It can get pretty messy. In my current Council we recently re-aligned the process so everyone recharters at the same time. The membership all expires at the end of December and packets are handed out at the October Roundtables with a "due date" of mid-December to allow the Council a couple weeks to work with Units to clean up as many issues as they can with incomplete paperwork, training, etc.
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This district will self destruct in 5..4..3...
Miami_Chief replied to oldisnewagain1's topic in Council Relations
Since the District is an administrative territory of the Council, it can't really "go away" without being merged with another by action of the Council Executive Board. Even if all of your Commissioners and Committee members walk away, the District still exists. It can even exist without all members of the Key 3. A District in that scenario will definitely struggle in carrying out the 4 functions, but it still exists. High-performing Units will still be fine, and likely not notice much until they need something. But Units in need of greater help will suffer. Often times to plug these gaps a well-meaning volunteer or pro will try to round up as many folks as possible for the sake of having things covered without taking the time to make sure everyone's in the right spot. It's been my experience that Districts that are staffed by the wrong folks often do more damage than good. I would rather have no Commissioners than ones who refuse to do the job. I'd rather have a couple folks who can make a good recruitment or FOS ask rather than an army of well-meaning folks with a terrible sales pitch. But I digress... While it sounds terrible, a District in this situation may be poised to make a great recovery. As long as you have good leaders with a vision in those key roles AND they know how to recruit, what you may be witnessing is the start to a District revival following an exodus of longtime volunteers who (even with the best intentions) were holding the District back. @@SeattlePioneer hits the nail on the head with the District Nominating Committee. When the proper procedure is followed, it's amazing how quick things can turn around. -
National Council Membership Fee
Miami_Chief replied to SeattlePioneer's topic in Open Discussion - Program
The last increase when into effect in January of 2014, and that only bumped us up from $15 to $24. Here's the full FAQ that was released during the last change: http://scout-wire.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/2014-BSA-Membership-Fee-Increase-FAQ.pdf "4. Does the BSA increase membership fees often? There have been nine fee increases in the organization’s history. On average, the fee increase has been 68 percent. Since 1969, the BSA has increased its fee every two to eight years, but averaging every five years." Will costs go up in the future? Of course they will. But I wouldn't be betting on an increase just two years after the last. -
I grew up in a very Catholic area and just about all of the parishes operated a grade school. The majority of those with schools also chartered a Pack and Troop. Sometimes smaller parishes/schools would partner up to make a decent sized scouting program. The units would vary in their degree of Catholic-ness in the program depending on their leadership. I think my Pack and Troop were a little more Catholic-centered in our program than most. While not everyone in the group was Catholic, it was understood that the Unit was a Catholic one. We had regular prayer at meetings and outings, we would always attend Mass together if camping over the weekend, religious emblems weren't required, but got plenty of promotion and most boys ended up doing them. We regularly provided service to the parish that chartered us, and even helped plan and run a few of the Diocese's Catholic Camporees. If the leadership of the Scouting Unit and the Chartered Organization really want to make Scouting an extension of their youth ministry, it can work great within the confines of the BSA program. No separate organization is needed.
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Does Your Council Staff Off-Summer Camp Activities?
Miami_Chief replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Council Relations
My old Council ran two family camps (spring/fall) staffed by current and former Camp Staff. They'd open up swimming, boating, and the shooting ranges and ran a campfire one of the nights. Some years they even opened up the climbing tower if they had the qualified staff for it. It also served as a casual staff reunion, which was nice. They "paid" the staff with a free weekend of camp and food. Usually each month had some sort of District/Council event at camp. Sometimes it was a camporee, other times it was a specialty program like a COPE weekend or training course. Current Council has a number of weekend events. In both Councils the weekend events are mostly staffed by the volunteer committees in charge of said events. If we're talking about paid staffing, most events can't afford to add that into the budget. If we're looking at this from the angle of "Does the Council provide staffing for these kind of events?" I'd argue that volunteers serving on the Council (Insert event here) Committee are the Council-provided event staff. -
By that logic, the BSA should ban straight females leaders and have no issue with lesbian leaders. The straight females are attracted to males- do they too put our boys in danger? Lesbians aren't attracted to males, so by this logic the BSA shouldn't have an issue with them. How on earth would this be applied to a coed Venturing Crew? Gay leaders would be banned for posing a threat to youth of their respective sex, and straight leaders would be out for posing a threat to the opposite sex. Who will lead our Crews? This line of thinking unravels pretty quickly when you follow it through. It's well intended, I'm sure. Keeping Scouts out of danger? Count me in. In this case however, the perceived danger is based on the concept that gay men are somehow less able to control themselves around young men than anyone else when interacting with members of the sex they find attractive. Are there adults looking to take advantage of youth in our program? Unfortunately yes, and this is why we have youth protection principles in place. Notice there's not a word about the sex of predators or their orientation in YPT. It recognizes that predators come in all sexes and orientations.
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I'm in the process of changing roles and am updating my uniform accordingly. As I'm checking out a uniform inspection sheet it dawns on me that I've never worn service stars. Growing up my Pack and Troop didn't use them, and likely didn't even know they existed. I can see some pros and cons with them, and would like to get a few more opinions: For those that use service stars, do you find it a neat addition to the uniform and do you use them in such a way that it adds to the experience for the boys? For those that don't do you find it unnecessary, too gaudy, etc? Any other thoughts on this oft-forgotten piece of insignia?