MattR

Do a search on "bsa scout council Los Angeles or OC" and find their websites.. Councils are broken into districts and the council website should have calendars and contacts for the districts. Good luck. Sounds fun

I sure don't see how it helps his clients or his place "at the table. "

Maybe we can get them to come forward and introduce themselves. I agree that a YP plan could, if it's done right, help in so many ways, but the details are likely difficult. BSA's program quality has always been an afterthought and if there's one thing I've learned about quality it's that it has to be a driving factor in most decisions. Whether it's manufacturing, software, youth protection or the patrol method, quality has to be front and center. It's a mindset of constant improvement. The current YP program doesn't have this. JTE is an attempt at improving program quality but there's nothing that suggests it has helped. Understanding why could help with improving both YP and program quality. That's my 2 cents for national and the TCC. If either has received this message then please create an account with a name based on the scout song "one fat hen and a couple of ducks." Your mission, should you decide to accept it ....

Who knows, maybe they're wasting too much time glued to scouter.com to find out what's going on.

I hope that any plan includes how far scouts are from these camps and how many scouts they can hold. The furthest council camp from my house is about 7 hrs and it's mostly interstate.

How can you tell if it's restricted? I couldn't find the description of letter codes that went with each camp.

I wish I could understand how he did that. If there's anything that could help scouting it would be to replicate that here. There have been attempts in the BSA but most have failed.

I understand that part. It's the evidence I'm wondering about. What's the proof that the BSA accepted false claims, given that they did complain about the intake process.

What do you mean by "knocking"? Punishment for a crime? Are you saying there should be no punishment for the crimes? My guess is your fear is that this will destroy scouting? If so, that's a very different topic. This one sounds like a statistical argument as to why the whole thing should be dropped. Getting back to my human dignity argument so many pages ago, that's not anything I'd get behind.

Is there any explanation as to why Century made this accusation? Standalone, it sounds far fetched.

Okay, it's pinned. @ThenNow, If you go to the home page you'll see that the forum is composed of numerous sub forums. This thread is in the issues and politics sub forum (why, I don't know but it is). Anyway, if you click on the I&p sub forum there is a list of threads sorted by last mod date, except for those pinned, which are kept at the top of the list.

High Adventure trip anyone? What are the prettiest couple hundred miles with plenty of camping. Is this one of those start in Florida in March and get to the end before fall gets too cold.

I'm assuming it would help survivors when they're ready to talk, to whatever level they're comfortable with. You were the first to have the courage to speak up and there have been a few more since. We can pin the thread so it stays visible when people look through the forums. Just let me know if you think that would help.

It would likely get lost in that thread, especially in the next few days. If I could I'd set up a sub thread for everything related to the bankruptcy to keep some of the many subjects cohesive, but I don't have those powers.

How is that possible?

You must have gotten the newer ones. Mine have no elastic. I do find the buttons difficult to work when it's cold and I really gotta go, but wool is great in the snow while active. Mine cost $15 army surplus but the price went up once everyone realized how great they are for snowshoeing. But, back to rain. It's all about breathability. I'd think the skirt with summer weight gators might do the trick.

Interesting. I'm always more comfortable in snow than rain. Now I know why.

I had the same thought months ago. If it could help then I'd be in favor. Not sure about the electrical hook ups, though

Unfortunately, any feedback is just speculation. We don't know.

Fun fact. Thanks.

@MGinLA, welcome to the forum and, uh, sorry about losing your first post.

I forget, what's after Storming? That reminds me. In another thread I asked what people needed for their kids to enjoy scouting. It was yet another attempt to get people to focus on being constructive, and it was ignored. Anyway, I thought of one more thing that would really help. Leadership. From the very top. Someone that has a vision and can get everyone on the same page. I read about this somewhere. Or maybe it was in a class I took. Something about animals and parking tickets? It's surprising how difficult it is to find a real leader.

Has anyone considered that .07% is a really bad number when it comes to quality? That's 1 in 1400. If 1 in 1400 cars had serious failures, to the point where it goes to court, people would be really upset. We should do better for our children. When it comes to quality there is no acceptable failure rate. There is, however, an acceptable change in failure rate.

Unfortunately, that money is gone. It's time to let it go. How about a small fundraiser to get you through the rest of the year?

Maybe not. What is it that your child needs/needed to enjoy scouting? I'll answer for me but I'd like to hear your and other people's opinions on this. My son needed a camp that was big enough for a bunch of scouts and not too far away. He needed a bunch of like minded kids and adults that also enjoyed the outdoors and the ideal of scouting. Finally, the adults that did all the work needed a program that they could follow. I'm not sure there's any priority to this list. One more thing that needs to be added to this list moving forward is a YP protocol that will keep us from ever coming back to where we are now. For us, the camp we most used was the biggest but the rest, as far as we were concerned weren't nearly as important. They made it easier to put on a monthly camping program. That was nice but we spent most of our campouts at one place. It was an easy place to go camping and big enough that we could do a lot of activities at. We camp in a lot of places but many have nothing to do with scouts, so occasionally traveling to find new places is also in the mix. Those were hard assets. The people and program were soft assets but they made it much easier to create a calendar. If we can keep a nearby camp, can still attract families and have a documented program that we can argue about here, then we'll do okay. We don't need HA bases. We don't need OA. A district would be nice but we certainly don't need council other than taking care of the camp. We don't need a lot of things. Put the scout store on Amazon. We also will continue to have the same problems we had before all of this came about. Kids still want to do more than be lectured at. Adjusting or tweaking the program will do a lot more good than saving Summit or preventing the loss of some of our smaller camps.